Gameshark.com: Preview + Philippe Thibault interview
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:44 am
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Gameshark.com: Preview + Philippe Thibault interview
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:03 am
The graphics leave a lot to be desired!? What wargames has this jacka, er, I mean gentleman been playing??
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:21 pm
runyan99 wrote:The graphics leave a lot to be desired!? What wargames has this jacka, er, I mean gentleman been playing??
If you consider his examination on the game though, compared to the one pc gamer's reviewer wrote, it is much more accurate. I like the sound of:
Despite the incredible depth of its strategic gameplay, American Civil War could derail due to a few glaring issues. First and foremost, this is an extremely involved game that requires careful consideration of every move. This is far from a casual title, relegating itself to the farthest reaches of hardcore gaming.
He couldn't have said it better even if perhaps he's fond of Rome Total War (lol). Compliments to Mr. Thibault
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:29 pm
Games without 3D are just not going to be praised by the media.Paradox understood this and changed.
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:57 pm
Ashbery76 wrote:Games without 3D are just not going to be praised by the media.Paradox understood this and changed.
...and now their games aren´t praised by their players...
F**k the media!
I´m a professional journalist. I know what i´m talking about!
Congrats for a mostly positive review Ageod!
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:08 pm
arsan wrote:...and now their games aren´t praised by their players...
F**k the media!
I´m a professional journalist. I know what i´m talking about!
Congrats for a mostly positive review Ageod!
That is not the case.A few moaners do not make a majority.
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:42 pm
Ashbery76 wrote:That is not the case.A few moaners do not make a majority.
Well... what "few" and "moaner" means could be the subject of and interesting debate...
And what advantages (if any) the ugly 3D map gives to EU3 could make another nice debating topic...
But we are on AGEOD's forums, so we better stick to AGEOD´s games...
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:47 pm
Ashbery76 wrote:That is not the case.A few moaners do not make a majority.
Certainly; but their games are less and less historical too...
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:04 am
arsan wrote:But we are on AGEOD's forums, so we better stick to AGEOD´s games...
Yes, indeed...
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:40 am
arsan wrote:And what advantages (if any) the ugly 3D map gives to EU3 could make another nice debating topic...
True !
3D is somewhat useless for this type of game and purely cosmetic; furthermore , if you want a good control of the overall situation ,you often need to zoom out and thus lose 3D benefits, if any...
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:25 pm
Completely, absolutely useless.
3D Stacks of NPC are a cherry on the cake...but if AgeOD builds a 3d map as well then it all starts to make sense. Since eyecandy junk is not the goal of this engine i would stop right there...to 3d stacks and a 3d map. Result would be a graphic overhawl and it doesn't take a team of 20 graphics and animators to build.
3D Stacks of NPC are a cherry on the cake...but if AgeOD builds a 3d map as well then it all starts to make sense. Since eyecandy junk is not the goal of this engine i would stop right there...to 3d stacks and a 3d map. Result would be a graphic overhawl and it doesn't take a team of 20 graphics and animators to build.
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:31 pm
Adlertag wrote:True !
3D is somewhat useless for this type of game and purely cosmetic; furthermore , if you want a good control of the overall situation ,you often need to zoom out and thus lose 3D benefits, if any...
The seemless zoom you get in the EU3 3D map is superior.AGEOD have already started making 3D units,3D map is the next stage.It's all about sales 2D doesn't cut it anymore.
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:40 pm
HI
I think the number of D's (2D, 3D...) is not the point.
i don´t give a damn if a map is 2d or 3d. I care if the map is beautiful & useful and can run on an intermediate PC.
EU3 is 3d, but is ugly, not useful and for all his glorious ugliness demmands pixel shaders
If they had made a beautiful and useful 3d map and sprites nobody would had moaned about it...
As long as AGEOD makes beautiful 2d maps nobody will moan about it (at last not the kind of players who are interested in this kind of complex games).
If AGEOD makes a 3d map as beautiful as the BoA, AACW or NCP ones that is as useful and don't ask for top of the line hardware, its all right with me.
More D doesn´t mean better of more beautiful.
EU3 is the proof.
Cheers!
I think the number of D's (2D, 3D...) is not the point.
i don´t give a damn if a map is 2d or 3d. I care if the map is beautiful & useful and can run on an intermediate PC.
EU3 is 3d, but is ugly, not useful and for all his glorious ugliness demmands pixel shaders
If they had made a beautiful and useful 3d map and sprites nobody would had moaned about it...
As long as AGEOD makes beautiful 2d maps nobody will moan about it (at last not the kind of players who are interested in this kind of complex games).
If AGEOD makes a 3d map as beautiful as the BoA, AACW or NCP ones that is as useful and don't ask for top of the line hardware, its all right with me.
More D doesn´t mean better of more beautiful.
EU3 is the proof.
Cheers!
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:30 pm
I prefer that AGEOD don´t use his time making one 3D map, for me is more important Ai and design of the game. a 2D map can be very usefel and beautiful and i think is easier to develop.
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:43 pm
I agree, this map is perfect. All we need is WEST VIRGINIA written onto it, and the color fix to Allegany.