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Hi
From the first time I had that impression, units moving too fast, giving the scenarios a hectic pace, so I decided to do some test. Here is a very simple one.
Open the Spanish scenario as French. Select the infantry division in Aranjuez (Barbou dËscourieres) and move it to Seville. It takes 6 days to reach destination. Now, mind you, it is a 482.5 Kms travel on the modern road. It means our infantry division (al infantry ellements plus a battery of artillery) moves at 80Kms per day!!!
Now, that is clearly wrong. In start of the 1805 the French units averaged almost 30Kms a day on good roads in what in game terms would be forced march. I think movement rates need a major recalculating in the game.

The problem is also the map cut...if you take the French forces in the Austerlitz scenario and move them from Strasbourg to Ulm, they do it in the same laps of time (6 days), but distance is only 130 km...

Problem lies also partly with the Major Road present in the travel-through regions I suspect, which speeds up the units a bit too much in some of these areas...

We shall may be find some corrections in the next patch. If you have any suggestions, we shall listen to them

PhilThib wrote:The problem is also the map cut...if you take the French forces in the Austerlitz scenario and move them from Strasbourg to Ulm, they do it in the same laps of time (6 days), but distance is only 130 km...

Problem lies also partly with the Major Road present in the travel-through regions I suspect, which speeds up the units a bit too much in some of these areas...

We shall may be find some corrections in the next patch. If you have any suggestions, we shall listen to them

That could be the exception, I show other examples

In the 1805 scenario

It takes 6 days to move an inf bde (to avoid non activation penalty) from Torino to Neuchatel. 325 Kms going through the Alps, 55 Kms a day, and the same Bde takes 5 days to get to Mantua, 315 Kms or 63 Kms a day. Davout entire Corps makes from Mannheim to Augsburg in 5 days (286 Kms, 57 Kms a day).

Some suggestions

1) Movement cost in general should go up. Maybe you can factor the region size as well as the terrain type if that is a problem. In any case, moving through a major road should not exceed 30kms a day, that could be made a sort of thumb rule to factor movement costs.

2) Redefine what a major road is. If that is a Trésaguet style road, then you have to radically downgrade the road netowork in much of your map, for instance there was not a single road in Spain in 1808 up to that standard, so no road would qualify as "major road". Whatever the standard you apply, certainly German and French major roads are something very different from Spanish, Polish or Russian "major roads".

3) Either no major road should go through mountains, or they should be factored into the movement in major roads. It is not the same wlak through a plain that climb through mountains even through a road. In any case "Mountain major road" seems to me a very unlikely occurrence.