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Can leaders be imbedded in brigades?

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:40 pm
by FM WarB
For example, leader Somerset in 1st hvy cav bde. If such is possible, would such an imbedded leader help out with CPs? (yes, I've been looking at CP challenged Uxbridge in 1815.)

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:16 pm
by jastaV
FM WarB wrote:For example, leader Somerset in 1st hvy cav bde. If such is possible, would such an imbedded leader help out with CPs? (yes, I've been looking at CP challenged Uxbridge in 1815.)


This options works with AACW, but not with NCP 1.04b........
.......that according to my experience!

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:52 pm
by Rafiki
[SIZE="1"](Pssst! Jasta, it's 1.04b, not 3.04b; never understood where you got the "3" from :) )[/size]

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:13 pm
by Primasprit
Rafiki wrote:[SIZE="1"](Pssst! Jasta, it's 1.04b, not 3.04b; never understood where you got the "3" from :) )[/size]

[SIZE="1"]Same here, but I never dared to say anything... ;) [/size]

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:25 pm
by Nikel
[SIZE="1"]And here, I thought he was alpha testing a patch of NCP3 :niark: [/size]

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:17 am
by jastaV
Rafiki wrote:[SIZE="1"](Pssst! Jasta, it's 1.04b, not 3.04b; never understood where you got the "3" from :) )[/size]


You are right........ :bonk:
........I'm optimistically looking forward to NCP 3!

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:52 am
by Pocus
The one with flying boats?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:26 am
by FM WarB
Dont forget the flying machine a mad Russian attempted to sell to Kotusov in 1812. (I notice there is a movement type "air" allowed....hmmm)

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:15 am
by jastaV
Pocus wrote:The one with flying boats?



Flying boats?
Do you mean something like this:

http://forums.jg1.org/viewtopic.php?t=15918

http://forums.jg1.org/viewtopic.php?t=12956

....or like this:

http://forums.jg1.org/viewtopic.php?t=15805

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:31 pm
by FM WarB
Has anyone actually tried having a leader as part of a brigade?...I notice some brigades have inf and arty, or cav and arty.

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:47 pm
by arsan
FM WarB wrote:Has anyone actually tried having a leader as part of a brigade?...I notice some brigades have inf and arty, or cav and arty.


Hi!
To know what a brigade/unit can merge with (wich in most case is with nothing more that they already have at full strength) or to know wich elements are missing from the brigade select two units on the unit panel and put the mouse over the (+) button (the one you use to add units to a division). The tooltip over the botton will tell you the maximum TOA of each selected unit.
For example, a two infantry element brigade can say
(2) Infantry elements
Which means no merging is possible if the brigade already ahve the two elements or
(1) Leader
(2) Infantry elements
Which would mean you can merge a leader to them.

This system works nicely on AACW. But i'm not positive about NCP :siffle:

Regards!

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:44 am
by FM WarB
arasn,
Thanks for the merging tips. I was asking about creating a unit, in the xls file that has a leader, plus combat elements. Brigade LeClerc would have Leader LeClerc as part of the brigade.
Warren

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:05 am
by arsan
FM WarB wrote:arasn,
Thanks for the merging tips. I was asking about creating a unit, in the xls file that has a leader, plus combat elements. Brigade LeClerc would have Leader LeClerc as part of the brigade.
Warren


:bonk:
Ups, sorry! I thought you were talking about game merging.
About modding i know zero :siffle:
Cheers!

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:23 pm
by Pocus
Just check the Units file for AACW, if there are no NCP brigades with embedded leader, this would be surprising though.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:12 pm
by jastaV
Pocus wrote:Just check the Units file for AACW, if there are no NCP brigades with embedded leader, this would be surprising though.


In NCP there are some brigades in starting OOB, but it's quite hard to form new ones during the game.

JastaV

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:32 pm
by Pocus
In this case this is because the brigade, in units.xls don't have a room for a $famLeader slot. See the columns family0 etc. in AACW, you will see cav brigades with such data, use this same structure to allow that in NCP for all brigades of your liking.

Know though that the engine don't support 2 leaders in a single unit, so it is on purpose that a division has only the div commander and not him plus one commander for each brigade.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:53 pm
by jastaV
Pocus wrote:In this case this is because the brigade, in units.xls don't have a room for a $famLeader slot. See the columns family0 etc. in AACW, you will see cav brigades with such data, use this same structure to allow that in NCP for all brigades of your liking.

Know though that the engine don't support 2 leaders in a single unit, so it is on purpose that a division has only the div commander and not him plus one commander for each brigade.


Good to know!

BTW, I was trying to contact you by PM with no result but this message:

Pocus has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.


Please check your PM box!

JastaV

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:18 pm
by Rafiki
jastaV wrote:BTW, I was trying to contact you by PM with no result but this message:

Pocus has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.


Please check your PM box!

[color="Blue"]You can try re-sending the PM now :) [/color]

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:44 pm
by jastaV
Rafiki wrote:[color="Blue"]You can try re-sending the PM now :) [/color]


Thanks,

It works now!

JastaV

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:30 pm
by FM WarB
Pocus wrote:Know though that the engine don't support 2 leaders in a single unit, so it is on purpose that a division has only the div commander and not him plus one commander for each brigade.


Thanks for that info. I now know not to try to create such.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:33 pm
by Pocus
Rafiki wrote:You can try re-sending the PM now :)


Thank you for ending my one-hour vacation, Raf :niark:

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:40 pm
by Rafiki
Pocus wrote:Thank you for ending my one-hour vacation, Raf :niark:

My pleasure, my liege :niark: