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Options Pages pictures

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:49 pm
by jastaV
Artistic pictures illustrating Military and Political Options in WiA are nice!
Is then possible to import them in other games as NCP?
Referring to Patched ver. 1.05a or superior

Tia

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:33 am
by Pocus
This need a bit of code change, but you can try adding an image reference in the option and see how it shows.

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:42 am
by jastaV
Pocus wrote:This need a bit of code change, but you can try adding an image reference in the option and see how it shows.


I planned to try.
WiA DB EXL files availability will greately help!

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:13 pm
by jastaV
Pocus wrote:This need a bit of code change, but you can try adding an image reference in the option and see how it shows.


Image

Definitely this needs a bit of code changes!
Anyway, it works but misplacing the picture............. Do not know If a could set pictures positioning.

What I did was adding ImageID in the Mil. Options EXl file:

ChangeActorPool = $gmaOptionMil;MaxUse;1;ResetFreq;0;[color="RoyalBlue"]ImageID;Opt_SYW_britsh_soldiers.png[/color];Title;opt_title_USA_Repl_Supply;MsgString;opt_desc_USA_Repl_Supply;ToolString;opt_hint_USA_Repl_Supply;SubType;USA_Repl_Supply;SParam1;USA

JastaV

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:34 pm
by jastaV
To complete the test I added pictures to all options for the Side:

Image

It seems like a wrong allignement troubles indeed. :D
Is that something to be fixed in AGEod codes or you can lead me to a fix on my own?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:09 am
by jastaV
Now, I went after ledger.FTE files from FrontEnd folder.
After many attempts I got this result:

Image

This was producing replacing NCP Ledger@1280.FTE with WIA Ledger.FTe file, and renaming it to the first.

Now we have two kinds of troubles:
1. It's not yest optimized, and Optimizing it will be a long job, having to properly fit all elements: pictures, texts, Option titles, ledger arrows and so on..... Guess then, having just 2 Options per page could help: at that point may be more options ledger pages will be needed!

2. While Wia has a unique Ledger.FTE, NCP has more depending on resolution.
That can mean most Ledger.FTE files have to been optimized! :(

Let you decide if that is worth:....may be you could quickly catch a solution out of the hat! :D

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:53 am
by Pocus
So you understand now when we say that creating or editing user interface is a pain in the rear? :)

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:00 am
by Nikel
jastaV, perhaps you already got it with the last try.

Have you tried with a picture slightly smaller?

Besides there is no explanatory text in WIA, just the title of the military option

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=9466&highlight=military+options

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:11 am
by arsan
Yes, in WIA the option text is a tooltip over the image.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:28 am
by Nikel
And this can be modded? Or Pocus is needed to change things?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:40 pm
by jastaV
Pocus wrote:So you understand now when we say that creating or editing user interface is a pain in the rear? :)


I know! :mdr:
BTW, my attempts were blind changes and check to see results based on.
If you could clarify ledger lines for:
1. pictures setting/positioning
2. Military option titles position
3. Tips positioning
4. Military option textual description positioning

.....then, I could go on with my attemps!

Not be in a hurry!
I Have already so many issues to go after, I could be kepts be busy for months! :wacko:

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:42 pm
by jastaV
Nikel wrote:jastaV, perhaps you already got it with the last try.

[SIZE="3"]Have you tried with a picture slightly smaller?[/size]

Besides there is no explanatory text in WIA, just the title of the military option

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=9466&highlight=military+options


[SIZE="3"]IS NOW UP TO ME PROVIDE PICTURES TOO?[/size] :wacko: :mdr: :mdr:

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:06 pm
by Nikel
jastaV wrote:[SIZE="3"]IS NOW UP TO ME PROVIDE PICTURES TOO?[/size] :wacko: :mdr: :mdr:


No, but first it is necessary that you make it work :niark: ;)


Seems clear that you succeded, but it is needed to change the explanatory text for tooltip info as arsan said. Even if it is well positioned the picture would be too small with the text using space. We want "great pictures" :neener:


By the way the picture is the same for all the options, but I guess you know how to add a different picture for each option?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:42 pm
by jastaV
Nikel wrote:No, but first it is necessary that you make it work :niark: ;)


Seems clear that you succeded, but it is needed to change the explanatory text for tooltip info as arsan said. Even if it is well positioned the picture would be too small with the text using space. We want "great pictures" :neener:


By the way the picture is the same for all the options, but I guess you know how to add a different picture for each option?


Seems clear that you succeded
NOT YET, NOT YET!!!! :( :confused:
My last modding attempts produced a disaster! :(

but I guess you know how to add a different picture for each option....
It's the most easy thing to go after!
I'm using same pictures for sake of semplicity while testing "positioning"!

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:57 pm
by jastaV
:p ompom:GIMME a J!
:p ompom: :p ompom:GIMME an A!
:p ompom: :p ompom: :p ompom:GIMME an S!
:p ompom: :p ompom: :p ompom:GIMME a T!
:p ompom: :p ompom:GIMME an A!
:p ompom:GIMME a V!

Image

This was for the Ledger@1280 only! :neener:

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:03 pm
by arsan
:p ompom: :p ompom: :p ompom: J-A-S-T-A-V!!!! :p ompom: :p ompom: :p ompom:

:thumbsup:

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:13 pm
by Nikel
Great solution! So now there are 2 options for page instead of three and there is more room.


But sorry, it is not enough I want this

[ATTACH]4634[/ATTACH]


or at least the signature in blood red :niark:


Just kidding of course, great job jastaV! :thumbsup:

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:16 pm
by jastaV
A last thing to think over: reducing to 4 the Nb. of selectable Options per page we could need to add more Military Options pages to the Ledger...........
Guess, it will be not so hard! :neener:

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:20 pm
by jastaV
Nikel wrote:Great solution! So now there are 2 options for page instead of three and there is more room.


But sorry, it is not enough I want this

[ATTACH]4634[/ATTACH]


or at least the signature in blood red :niark:


Just kidding of course, great job jastaV! :thumbsup:


Just provide me a full set of seals: "N" for French, Imperial Eagle for Austria, Russian Eagle,......
Do not forget Spaign Crown seal! :mdr:

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:38 pm
by jastaV
1280x790
Image

1152x864
Image

1280x1024
Image

1024x768
Image

1680x1050
Image

Here is how it looks at different resolution, having modded all Ledger.FTE files in NCP instalaltion.

In next post I'll upload modded ledger files and whatelse you need for trying on your PC!

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:49 pm
by jastaV
In the attached zip file there's all you need to try on your own!
:neener: Just Copy past over NCP installation directory!

[SIZE="4"][color="Red"]VERY IMPORTANT[/color][/size]

BACK UP YOUR ORIGINAL FILES BEFORE PASTING OVER!

Backup:
All ledger.FTE files in NCP/FrontEnd folder.
HistOptions08 in NCP/events folder.

No need to backup other files.

I cannot tried on my own the Ledger@1440.FTE file.
I please anyone having a monitor supporting such a resolution to try it and post resulting ledger/military Option screenshots.

All test are at your Own risk!
Remember to backup original files! :cool:

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:25 am
by Nikel
hi jastaV, working here at 1920x1200 :thumbsup:

[ATTACH]4647[/ATTACH]

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:13 pm
by Pocus
Your pugnacity is impressive!

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:09 pm
by jastaV
Pocus wrote:Your pugnacity is impressive!


Have to admit I'he been very lucky this time: I catched out the lines to be modded soon without .... pain in the rear! :wacko:

Now, I'm waiting for my favourite painter to produce Military Options pictures!