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The blockade value for Union River_Ironclads is set at 0 when it seems it should be 3.

The railroad link between Keokuk, Iowa and Carthage, Illinois does not appear to be working.

These should fix the link. Backup and overwrite existing files in ACW/GameData/Regions.

860Carthage, IL.rgn
1022Keokuk, IA.rgn

Jabberwock wrote:These should fix the link. Backup and overwrite existing files in ACW/GameData/Regions.

860Carthage, IL.rgn
1022Keokuk, IA.rgn

While you're in the mood for fixing up map issues...

I wrote a quick Java program to check the entire map for consistency. Here's the output from a run on the 1.06 region files:

Loading 1524 region files...
Performing map consistency checks...
Region 98: one-way adjacency to region 101
Region 101: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 98
Region 128: jump link of inconsistent distance to region 137
Region 247: one-way adjacency to region 235
Region 275: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 291
Region 291: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 275
Region 312: one-way adjacency to region 313
Region 321: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 657
Region 405: one-way adjacency to region 413
Region 413: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 405
Region 503: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 510
Region 510: one-way adjacency to region 503
Region 510: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 1023
Region 630: jump link of inconsistent distance to region 1029
Region 657: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 321
Region 689: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 690
Region 690: one-way adjacency to region 689
Region 690: one-way adjacency to region 1489
Region 716: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 717
Region 717: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 716
Region 860: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 1022
Region 946: jump link of inconsistent distance to region 1033
Region 1022: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 860
Region 1023: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 510
Region 1350: one-way adjacency to region 1075
Done.

Obviously the numbers are the UID entries from the region files. I expect the meaning of the messages is self-explanatory, but let me know if not.

I guess you caught the 860/1022 one already!

Cheers,
Pete.

Nice - thank you.

Jagger wrote:The blockade value for Union River_Ironclads is set at 0 when it seems it should be 3.

AFAIK, blockade values are only used in the blockade boxes. For brown-water blockade (including rivers), only number of units count. I.e. river ironclads don't have any use for blockade values.

Jabberwock wrote:These should fix the link. Backup and overwrite existing files in ACW/GameData/Regions.

860Carthage, IL.rgn
1022Keokuk, IA.rgn

Thanks!

AFAIK, blockade values are only used in the blockade boxes. For brown-water blockade (including rivers), only number of units count. I.e. river ironclads don't have any use for blockade values.

Thanks!

PeterD wrote:While you're in the mood for fixing up map issues...

I wrote a quick Java program to check the entire map for consistency. Here's the output from a run on the 1.06 region files:

Loading 1524 region files...
Performing map consistency checks...
Region 98: one-way adjacency to region 101
Region 101: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 98
Region 128: jump link of inconsistent distance to region 137
Region 247: one-way adjacency to region 235
Region 275: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 291
Region 291: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 275
Region 312: one-way adjacency to region 313
Region 321: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 657
Region 405: one-way adjacency to region 413
Region 413: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 405
Region 503: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 510
Region 510: one-way adjacency to region 503
Region 510: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 1023
Region 630: jump link of inconsistent distance to region 1029
Region 657: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 321
Region 689: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 690
Region 690: one-way adjacency to region 689
Region 690: one-way adjacency to region 1489
Region 716: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 717
Region 717: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 716
Region 860: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 1022
Region 946: jump link of inconsistent distance to region 1033
Region 1022: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 860
Region 1023: no adjacency or jump link matching transport link to 510
Region 1350: one-way adjacency to region 1075
Done.

Obviously the numbers are the UID entries from the region files. I expect the meaning of the messages is self-explanatory, but let me know if not.

I guess you caught the 860/1022 one already!

Cheers,
Pete.

Wow! Nice program. Jabberwock, if you can do the fixes, I know the community would appreciate it.

I found your fix in the terrain file but I don't understand the format of these files or I would do it.

Jabberwock- I take it that you are compiling a list or database of all these corrections to submit to Pocus & Co.?

This stuff is invaluable, as it is the kind of tedious work that the developers don't typically have time to do.
So thanks!

Pdubya64 wrote:Jabberwock- I take it that you are compiling a list or database of all these corrections to submit to Pocus & Co.?

Since Pocus & Co. are almost all on a very well deserved vacation, I am just putting together a comprehensive fix of most of the problems others have found. I am heading out to do some physical labor today , but I hope to have this up late tonight or early tomorrow.

Given Jabberwock's updated files, it is easy to make a list of differences between those and those in the most recent patch, if Pocus & Co want that.

I'd be happy to help, if need be

Guys, just want to thank you for the excellent work in IDing some of these issues.

Jabberwock,

You are doing a great job with these Region link errors.

Question :

Will there be one download available with all of the Region fixed link errors, or are just individuals zips as they are fixed.

Thanks

Chamberlain

One download. Testing it now. I will post it soon.

Jabberwock wrote:One download. Testing it now. I will post it soon.

Thanks Jabberwock



Chamberlain

Numerous testing failures and real-life interruptions later . . . here is the comprehensive fix, tested with 1.05.

Change list:
1 Columbia, NY adjacent to 1125 Middle Hudson River
1125 Middle Hudson River adjacent to 1 Columbia, NY
34 Cattaraugus, NY adjacent to 38 Centre, PA
38 Centre, PA adjacent to 34 Cattaraugus, NY
37 Meadville, PA adjacent to 48 Lawrence, PA
48 Lawrence, PA adjacent to 37 Meadville, PA
37 Meadville, PA has no water connection to 416 Trumbull, OH
416 Trumbull, OH has no water connection to 37 Meadville, PA
69 Juniata PA, connected by rail to 70 Schuylkill, PA
70 Schuylkill PA, connected by rail to 69 Juniata, PA
101 Somerset, MD adjacent to 98 Kent, DE
Water distance from 137 New Kent, VA to 128 King & Queen, VA conforms to water distance from 128 King and Queen, VA to 137 New Kent, VA
230 New Hanover, NC adjacent to 231 Burke, NC
231 Burke, NC adjacent to 230 New Hanover, NC
235 Spartanburg, SC adjacent to 247 Union, SC
291 Chatham (Savannah), GA adjacent to 275 Jasper, SC
275 Jasper, SC adjacent to 291 Chatham, GA
313 Butler, GA adjacent to 312, Heard, GA
321 Cuthbert, GA adjacent to 657 Eufala, AL
657 Eufala, AL adjacent to 321 Cuthbert, GA
413 Richland, OH adjacent to 405 Erie, OH
499 Vigo, IN adjacent to 500 Clay, IN
499 Vigo, IN adjacent to 502 Owen, IN
500 Clay, IN adjacent to 499 Vigo, IN
502 Owen, IN adjacent to 499 Vigo, IN
503 Montgomery, IN adjacent to 510 Shelby, IN
510 Shelby, IN adjacent to 1023 Dearborn, IN
1023 Dearborn, IN adjacent to 510 Shelby, IN
630 Butler, AL has no water connection to 1029 Meridian, MS
1029 Meridian, MS has no water connection to 630 Butler, AL
689 Copiah, MS adjacent to 690 Canton, MS
1489 Claiborne, MS adjacent to 690 Canton, MS
716 Iberville, LA adjacent to 717 Duras, LA
717 Duras, LA adjacent to 716 Iberville, LA
860 Carthage, IL adjacent to 1022 Keokuk, IA
1022 Keokuk, IA adjacent to 860 Carthage, IL
946 Nevada, MO has no water connection to 1033 Papin, MO
1033 Papin, MO has no water connection to anywhere
1075 Hamilton, UC adjacent to 1350 Western Lake Ontario

Many thanks in no particular order to - Hobbes, Gray_Lensman, Jagger, PeterD, Stonewall, Queeg, hope I haven't forgot anybody

Excellent, Jabberwock.

I think there are still some problems around Papin, MO though...

Region 933: one-way jump link to region 1033
Region 947: one-way jump link to region 1033
Region 1032: one-way jump link to region 1033

933 is Creston, MO, so that one should be removed from Creston.
947 is Hermitage, MO. Looks like Papin should have a return link.
1032 is Scott, KS. Again, looks like Papin should have a return link.

Also, I noticed the jump link b/w Nevada, MO and Papin, MO has been removed, rather than just having the distance made the same both ways.

Lastly, not sure I agree with removing the water link b/w 630Butler,AL and 1029Meridian,MS, I think again the distance just needed fixing.

Didn't mean to nitpick . These all seem to be water-related, so maybe I missed some related discussion elsewhere? I am working off the 1.06 files as a base, is that causing confusion?

I reckoned (a Missouri-ism) you would catch the inconsitencies around Papin, but I wanted to get this posted. Meridian does not have a harbor, so the issue there would only affect land units moving by water between there and Butler. Since this is only across a minor river, I believe land movement is all that is appropriate there.

My concern with the Butler/Meridian link is that I don't see how the engine would know that there's a river there (it's just on the map, and there's no region representing minor rivers) unless the link is a jump link. That means the combat factors for crossing a minor river would not be applied - imagine how upset you'd be as the CSA player making a final stand with your back to the Tombigbee, only to be denied the "Minor bonus if attacker crosses the river." .

However I am only proceeding from educated guesswork here!

PeterD wrote:My concern with the Butler/Meridian link is that I don't see how the engine would know that there's a river there (it's just on the map, and there's no region representing minor rivers) unless the link is a jump link. That means the combat factors for crossing a minor river would not be applied - imagine how upset you'd be as the CSA player making a final stand with your back to the Tombigbee, only to be denied the "Minor bonus if attacker crosses the river." .

However I am only proceeding from educated guesswork here!

I had not thought of that. You are probably correct.

have these changes made it into the official patch yet?

I don't believe so. Now that I know a little more about JumpLinks, I can state that PeterD was correct. Gray_Lensman is working on these issues using the map editor, which is a much better way to do it than editing notepad files. I think Ageod needs the work done with the map editor before they can add it to a patch.

blackbellamy wrote:have these changes made it into the official patch yet?

No, repeating what JW just said (if I'd only read it first) Gray_Lensman is compiling the various broken links and fixing them. As I understand it, he will upload it to AGEod and I believe they will incorporate it into an official patch. Until then, we have to make file changes ourselves.