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Master Training does not work on the move

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:00 pm
by Coregonas
Hi

EXP MasterTraining (i.e CSA Hardee skill) doesnt work while moving.

A lots of patches ago (I tested it when the EXACT EXP values still were not seen looking into the STAR), I asked for this minibug, and some one told me (Pocus perhaps?) this should work even on the move, (because the EXP was asigned in the "initial/supply phase"?)

I ve tested again and still does not add EXP while moving.

So the only way it works is standing quiet for all the turn, exactly as it was a LONG PATCH ago.

I dont ask exactly for changing, just need to clarify if this is WAD, as I remember the answer was it was not WAD.

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As a BoA UPGRADING (perhaps now Wia?) related problem,...

I remember some years ago I concluded my units didnt upgraded while on the move, so I finally tried to join my "upgradable" to regular units (with gral. Washington if posible) in a FAR & QUIET position, that gave me very very good results, upgrading while NOT MOVING was incredibly more quick.

I believe NEVER upgraded my militias to continentals while on the move.

This seems to me the exact same problem as MasterTraining related one.

Perhaps TECHUPG and/or TRAINUPG does not work while moving? I ve not tested seriously, but I feel also more of my units do upgrade while STOPPED than while moving.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:08 pm
by arsan
In WIA it only works while not moving too.
Check here
http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=10790
It seems to be considered WAD.
And i think i agree, as training while campaigning and moving around would be much more difficult.
Regards!

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:02 pm
by aryaman
What about training officer? does it work on the move? it only work if commander officer, it will make more sense to have it work only if not moving

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:16 pm
by lodilefty
aryaman wrote:What about training officer? does it work on the move? it only work if commander officer, it will make more sense to have it work only if not moving


In WIA [and since engine is 'common' to all] both Training Officer and Training Master [aka Drill Master] only work if the stack doesn't move.

To me it makes sense. The officer is doing rigorous close order drill, live fire, battlefield maneuver, etc training. Tough to do in any moving army, in any era....

Otherwise, who needs the Desert Training Center and OpFor? :blink:

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:00 pm
by Coregonas
In fact, lodilefty thread talks about "TRAINING officer"; (Cooper skill, not Hardee) -> confirms it does not work on the move

(As in AACW - CSA has mainly Cooper fixed, doesnt move anyway, and at least a second Leader, I believe appearing mid-63)


lodilefty is not talking about MASTER TRAINING / DRILLER (Hardee skill)... he says is a different skill, but seems it works nearly the same way.



I can confirm -drilling- doesnt work while moving...

However... I asked a long time ago and the answer was different:

check this
http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=7621

only needed to clarify if finally is WAD as now it is.

EDIT -> JUST read lodilefty answer. ok WAD then