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Supply - does it work correctly?

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:33 pm
by runyan99
I'm not so sure. Especially with respect to the consumption of food.

In many cases, I can move an army into a wilderness or forest region with no city, and they can stay there, apparently using no supplies at all, for months on end. Their supply of food does not go down at all. Often, when I check the supply status of the regions (using the supply filter button) these regions are shown in red.

Are units consuming supplies like they are supposed to?

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:57 pm
by Pocus
Well, they are supposed anyway! :)

Create a situation where you believe something is weird. Then send me the whole saved game, with backups to support@ageod.com. I should get some time, but no before a good week, to see if something is wrong.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:02 am
by runyan99
No need for save game files. Quickly try the following experiment.

Start the 1776 campaign as the Americans.

Take John Patterson from New York with the two militia regiments assigned to him, the 5th NY and the 2nd NJ. Order them to move to the east end of Long Island. Hit end turn.

Patterson arrives at Long Island. It is February. His food and water still shows 100%. Well, maybe starting the turn in New York provided him with supply. Let's see what happens when he sits in Long Island for a month, a region with a supply level of only 1. It contains no city, is not adjacent to a city, and Patterson has no supply wagons. His supplies should decrease next month, right? Hit end turn again.

It is now March 1776. Patterson still shows 100% food and water supply. Why and how?

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:25 pm
by anarchyintheuk
Units also draw supplies from adjacent areas. If you put an army next to them that outstrips supply in that area, the supply for the units in E. Long Island will drop.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:31 pm
by runyan99
Adjacent, or farther than adjacent? Long Island is not adjacent to any city, which is the reason I chose this example. Brooklyn is in between. Is Patterson still drawing supply from New York, even though he is two regions away?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:47 am
by Wilhammer
Ya know, at this scale, I wonder if having a force draw supply from an adjacent area is correct.

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Perhaps we might see a day where we have to issue orders for forces to forage; that should slow them down (perhaps doubling the cost of entering a region?) and possibly anger the local populace if too much foraging is needed.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:27 am
by runyan99
Here's another example.

Start the 1778 Northern Campaign scenario. Remove the supply wagon from the Continental army, then march them into the Tuscacora mountains to the west, where the supply level is 0, and there are no immediately adjacent cities. With no artillery, they can get there by the middle of May.

Leave the army there until November. They will still have 100% of their food and water supply.

It looks to me like armies simply aren't consuming food and water at all when they are in friendly territory, regardless of the supply level of the region they are in.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:07 am
by Pocus
I will check this potential issue in a matter of days.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:36 pm
by Pocus
checked, there was a bug :(

Sorry, we will try to post a BOA patch as soon as possible. We would like to add to BOA the new Focus On Move feature of AACW too (you will have the option to have the map focus on all enemy moves, with a variable delay).

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:38 pm
by Jagger
I was about to start up a new French/Indian campaign but wanted to wait till the supply issue was fixed.

Any timeline on the new patch with supply fix?

Thanks!

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:55 am
by Pocus
end of week or earlier.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:51 am
by Jagger
Thanks!