lordlau1 wrote:LOL, I see now..ok, that makes sense. I have started to recruit my new divisions. Can I add old brigades to those divisions to make them full 18 unit divisions?
Thanks for the support, gentleman.
PhilThib wrote:WAD, this is no bug here...you are allowed only 5 Divisions of the "old" style after the Reform (i.e. combining Brigades with leaders).
What you get is 20 new Divisions units (single units) which are better and more powerful, to build. Those units can individually go into corps.
This is how it works for every nation: they have a limited number of old style divisions (player-made) and lose about half of them in the reforms, BUT they get a large number of new divisional-single-units (like the french have from start) which are much better and stonger.
You won't get the butter and the cream
lordlau1 wrote:"The 'new style divisions' work the same as brigades with regards to game mechanics, so you cannot add other units to them. How are they in power compared to the 'old style' divisions?"
The power is less than half or more of the old style divisions. My new divisions fully formed as Spain are 135-152 power.
My old divisions range from 298 to 446. The reforms have actually weakened me as a fighting force unless I was able to get all my Corps to "March to the Sound of the Guns" at exactly the same time. That will never happen as veterans of CW1 and CW2 know...it just isn't realistic.
I think that I should be able to create full divisions with the reforms. What is the point of reforming an army and my army is weaker and my divisions are all undersized at just over half strength?
Pocus....insight, please?
lordlau1 wrote:I agree as far as the aI, but in this PBEM game i am in, the reforms have guaranteed that I cannot ever even try to fight any other power now. At least before the reforms I could make 10 divisions and create 1 or 2 armies and have 3-4000 power. Now I cannot even do that, I am relegated to the backseat and am essentially destroyed.
It turned out to be a huge waste of months of gameplay and trying to get the reforms and now I have had my power cut in half.
Maybe when I get all 20 allowed divisions created...but that will be long after the game is over.
Captain_Orso wrote:Does anybody have a Save with any or all of the major factions with Military Reforms in place that I could have a look at? It would be much appreciated
veji1 wrote:Sorry I meant no one got as as far as having all countries implementing military reforms. Sorry misread your post !
veji1 wrote:No idea is stupid.
veji1 wrote:I stil think that it would be better for the reforms to indeed give the country/player a whole new army. Maybe there should be some sort of instrument coded so that elements don't disappear but are transferred to the new divs, I don't know what could be doable.
veji1 wrote:But what I know is that the only way the game can be made "more" playable particularly against the AI, but not only, is if military reforms do indeed give a whole new set of forces AND their better command structures. At least it makes it a challenge for the player : again with army/corps/div structures, the best experiences to be had in AGEOD games were in AACW or CW2 as the south against an already structured northern army with the 62 or 63 scenarios.
veji1 wrote:All AGEOD games of similar set up should help the AI and players of defeated countries by having events/reforms set up armies.
After all in Napoleon's wars, that's actually how it went for Austria or Prussia anyway.
Captain_Orso wrote:
My conclusion is therefore, the Military Reforms should only be changed in that they should allow for either an unlimited number of division, or a much higher number of divisions, than is currently allowed. This would IMHO remove all objections and complaints about Military Reforms, other than perhaps, "why don't I get them from the start?!? " .. .
You may now tell me how stupid my idea is
deidaraakatski wrote:Captain_Orso wrote:
My conclusion is therefore, the Military Reforms should only be changed in that they should allow for either an unlimited number of division, or a much higher number of divisions, than is currently allowed. This would IMHO remove all objections and complaints about Military Reforms, other than perhaps, "why don't I get them from the start?!? " .. .
You may now tell me how stupid my idea is
No idea is stupid but this one is infinitely better, feasible, efficient, and just brilliant. This would allow the AI to compete and is more tangible to program. This way programmers don't have to code and develop a huge new army for all the nations and will keep the significance of having the old divisions in the game in the first place. Perhaps there should also be a small manpower reward with this military reform as well, mainly to buff the AI to start building.
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