Kensai wrote:(by a sheer coincidence, coal especially does not need to be fixed as the system buys coal for industry and ships before shutting them down...
Kensai wrote:Lack of coal that shuts down structures has been fixed in a previous patch, look at the release notes, that's all I am saying. Having a consistent lack of coal unless you are at a major war (as Japan) means that you probably overexpanded your industrial capacity, railroad network, moving too much ships and troops by rail or a combination of all these. In any way, for the n'th time: read the CBOT that was just published. There is NO lack of coal according to the amounts some nations have hoarded and the price attributed in game. As there is no lack of "gems" either, it's simply that some nations have them, some other not.
Early December 1877
Jim-NC wrote:I second Boernes, if you do not have enough stock of a resource at the start of the turn, then some of the industries that use it will not produce that turn. To me, it appears that you only emergency buy if you don't have enough for transportation needs.
Jim-NC wrote:As Britain, I have more coal needs then I can meet, so I already have shut down some industry to save coal. This causes me to be limit my building of mechanical structures, and my not building a single new coal-using farm in approximately 1 year.
Citizen X wrote:How I put it into the dropbox?
Citizen X wrote:Hell, no! After thinking about it... Ottomans might soon be up for grabs.
Having a hillariuosly outnumbered and outdated military and almost no industry and getting a DOW after 10 turns by several nations including one of the leading nations is not quite an invitation. And absolutly no fun. Had I known that you were going to play this out no matter what I wouldnt have put effort into OE. I was ready to take the challenge of a country so down as this. Thus I offered a diplomatic gameplay to play out the Bulgarian crisis AND get me some time to make this country at least a playable nation. So that everybody could have his fun and I wouldn't need to claim a "spawn protection" of several years which by all means this OE needs, no matter whats been said about it.
Now this DOW, wich will set me back even further and will, if played out, strip me of the rest of my army (which the balcan minors alone nearly match me, given the amount and the equipment of their combined armies) and of a considerable amount of my land and resources. And industry, because my predecessors not only chose to dismantle several factories but also put the one's they built into the bulgarian area, heaven know's why.
This is no fun. Had this situation arised from my misjudgement in the last gameyears or all gameyears I would face it without a hint of complaint. But being encouraged into sticking with it and then getting gangbanged makes me feel abused (oun intended).
Btw. Asking me under these circumstances whether I was "the man" pisses me off big time with all that in mind. I am experienced enough in playing the OE to know what it can accomplish and what not and how it can or should look like in 1877. And actually you can't know if I am a man at all.
Last let me ask you a favour should anybody answer this. Don't come to me with history. I am all into historic gaming and often take the odd countries. But if a chance to alter the historic course is not intended I rather watch a movie.
Citizen X wrote:Ok. I am warming this up again. I think that player lead nation must not be without or with only few diplomats. It is a major disadvantage. I am not going into discussion here. It has all been said before.
I simply put forth a vote.
1. Should players that don't recieve at least 5 diplomats by the engine have them scripted
2. or rather rather 3
3. or none
?
How I put it into the dropbox?
nemethand wrote:That's all in a nutshell. So, no mischief or conspiracy there.
Kensai wrote:Late December 1877
Jonathan, remember to install the latest .exe on top of your game. You can find it in the Dropbox. Please make a backup of the old just in case.
Citizen X wrote:But I am not taking back. I gonna play till April 1878 and try whatever is possible.
Citizen X wrote:And there it is, excactly what pisses my off (sorry, my elvish), when nemethand says:
"To be honest, I was happy when you took over OE; I thought fighting against and beating the AI might not be a challenge, as compared to what is posed by a human player."
Just turn it around in my ears and soon it reads: beating you is more fun than beating the AI.
You still wonder why I am mad? Really?
Kensai wrote:May I ask you something... what makes you think you are in a hopeless situation? Don't tell me you believe the F10 screen with its "combat ratios"? Russia is indeed 2-3x stronger (on paper) than the Ottoman Empire but it has to defend a 5x larger area, its armies are not state-of-the-art (you have to try Germany for that, your armies will melt on impact). The other Balkan nations (Moldavia, Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, Montenegro) are really a bite away, frankly. Last, you fight a defensive war which can be quite a different story.
Trust me, I stop here cause you might actually become too serious for this conflict and I happen to play Greece.Just give it a chance and you might be pleasantly surprised at what you can do. Simply remember to (1) protect your capital, (2) buy enough replacements each turn from the F3 screen to keep your armies and navies battle-worthy.
bjfagan wrote:Citizen X,
Sorry for having to drop our alliance, but as Lukasberger stated Germany has had an extremely close friendship with Russia for a very long time. There is no way Germany would go to war against Russia over the OE. (Maybe Poland, but not the OE....... sorry nemethand I just had to throw that in there). But look at the bright side, I am not helping them either with the German troops sitting in Egypt.
Hopefully, your diplomacy PM's and emails are flying around the world right now. There are some countries that could help out and who are not particularly very fond of Russia. You should take advantage of the lack of a German/Russian defensive alliance and see who will join you by DoW on Russia without fear of a German required DoW in response.
Kensai wrote:You seem to underestimate some pure geopolitical factors when fighting in defense and in homeland (or close to it). I don't blame you. I was called nuts for doing a Japanese defense against the combined onslaught of Germany and Russia, but it worked. Not because Japan was strong (combined it was 4x smaller), but as the attacking forces stretch their lines and get into logistics issues, the defender becomes stronger, albeit losing territory and industrial capacity from occupation. In the end, if there is no exit policy or a check mate thanks to a clear and attainable objective, the aggressor will find it difficult to press for his claims. The defender is usually entrenched, well supplied, with new units spawning nearby. The defender can decide where to fight: on the mountains, across a river, etc. Do not think that a major power of the era does not risk when it is entangled in such a serious conflict.
This applies also to the Chinese-Japanese war, that conflict is far from over now that Japan is in the offensive and has stepped on the mainland where hordes of defensive Chinese soldiers can be amassed quickly without the logistics issues they faced in Korea.
We will see. One thing is certain, Citizen X, the CBOT industrial values mean almost nothing in a defensive consolidating war as long as your can at least have the few resources needed (mainly manufactured goods, steel, and state funds) to buy the replacement chits for the disabled elements. Focus on these, the rest is like the rest of AGEOD games: pure warfare.
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