enf91
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Wetlands reclamation

Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:44 am

I've played this decision several times on two provinces in Florida (in addition to a few other places, about 20 times total). I've noticed that (1) it never discovers a new resource, although probability says I should have discovered one by now, and (2) it doesn't affect the development level at all. What could the problem be?

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Wed May 08, 2013 6:00 pm

It's been a long time, but as I recall, the resources are all predefined but not always displayed early in the game. Sometimes the resource isn't there at all (no oil anywhere on the map at start) sometimes there's just more of the same resources, sometimes there's new resources. As time progresses some hidden resources are revealed by either event or randomly. You can pro-actively reveal such hidden resources, but not those that aren't there to be found.

For the most part the devs seem to have gone to great lengths to be pro-active in terms of what resources are or aren't where (no rice in Scandinavia). What resources is Florida known for during the time period of the game? Tropical fruit. Maybe small amounts of fish or lumber. maybe not? Fruit is there from the start, not sure if anything shows up later, my old games are long gone.

I'd suggest you're not discovering new resources because there are none hidden to be found. The are is to this day largely undeveloped (for good reasons) and most of what development there is happened post WWI.

Personally I've never found the reclamation decision to be worth the cost. Most resources that could be discovered and you would be worthwhile, aren't in areas that are both national and swampy such that the decision can be played anyway.

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Wed May 08, 2013 6:19 pm

Perhaps the maximum number of resources has been already discovered. In that case, it will always fail.
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Thu May 09, 2013 8:15 am

the prospector expedition can't be played if there is no resource to discover. This might sound unrealistic, but we did not want to have you play a boring guess game with that.
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Thu May 09, 2013 7:13 pm

My note is not just that it isn't discovering a new resource, but that it also isn't raising the development level or having any other effect.

And it's not the prospector expedition, but the "wetlands reclamation" province decision.

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Fri May 10, 2013 8:58 am

and you are sure that the effects can be applied? Sometime a decision have a constraint which is ok, but some effects won't apply.
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Fri May 10, 2013 6:44 pm

Effects like +5% development level on a 75% developed province? Now that I think about it, it may have had the population effect (+15) it was supposed to, but I'm not sure. I do know it never finds any resources and does not increase development level.

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Mon May 13, 2013 1:01 pm

Checked, wetland can only boost development up to 50 and can discover a resource 25% of time... BUT you can still play it even if there is no resource to discover or no development to improve... Prospector expedition OTOH can't be played if there is no resource to discover.

So in summary, it is possible to play Wetland in a region and achieve basically nothing...
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