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Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:23 pm

Congratulations Skibear for your Win!

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Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:12 pm

What happens to the pool games if we upgrade to Public Beta Patch 1.04 RC4?

Any positives?

Any negatives?

What changes apply to the West scenario?

What happens if only some players upgrade?

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Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:41 pm

The patches should be save compatible, but both players and host should upgrade to 1.04. RC4 in that case. I do not think there are changes that directly influence West scenario, but there are interface improvements. I wouldn't mind if we finish 1st round with 1.03. and switch to 1.04 afterwards. I am curious how the games are going. Can you all post current standings in your games, screenshots are not necessary.

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Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:28 pm

Am I correct in understanding that 1.04 is still a beta patch? For simplicity, I say we finish the pool round before switching to 1.04.

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Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:02 am

Current standings in my games:

Jim NC USA vs Pgr CSA
Trn 16
Jim 620 VP, Pgr 410 VP,
Memphis, Tuscon held by US.

CitizenX USA vs Ace CSA
Trn 10
CitizenX 100 VP, Ace 302 VP,
Memphis held by US, Nashville by CSA.

Ace USA vs Guru94 CSA
Trn 8
Ace 214 VP, Guru94 193 VP,
Little Rock held by US.

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Current standings in my games:

Planefinder(USA) vs FelixZ(CSA)
Turn 3
Planefinder 94 VP FelixZ 64 VP

FelixZ(USA) vs Highlandcharge(CSA)
Turn 11
FelixZ 410 VP Highlandcharge 297 VP
Memphis, Tucson held by USA

Liberty Bell(USA) vs moni kerr(CSA) [FelixZ(Host)]
Turn 7
Liberty 149 VP moni kerr 192 VP
Mobile, Chattanooga held by USA

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Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:42 am

I hosting Highlandcharge(USA)-Planefinder(CSA)
Early May 62
Highlandcharge(USA) 171 VP
Planefinder(CSA) 213 VP

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Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:03 am

FelixZ(USA) vs Highlandcharge(CSA)- Early August

USA- 126 NM, 447 VP +33/turn. 26,950 casualties.
Controls- Memphis, Tucson
Holds 20,600 CSA prisoners

CSA- 87 NM, 319 VP +29/turn. 42,080 casualties.

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Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:56 pm

Turn 12 Guru94 (USA)-- Citizen X (CSA)

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Pool C Pgr USA Lindi CSA Final

Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:28 pm

In the Pool C match between myself and Lindi, the victory goes to Lindi and the CSA!

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Final VP points: Pgr 724, Lindi 838 + 500 (for the win)=1238
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Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:41 pm

Ok I have updated the top of the thread with the current standings for finished games and games that have reached the mid-way point.

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I'd like to propose a house rule for the following rounds;

Leaders wishing to traverse enemy controlled territory must be accompanied by a combat unit.

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Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:51 am

moni kerr wrote:I'd like to propose a house rule for the following rounds;

Leaders wishing to traverse enemy controlled territory must be accompanied by a combat unit.


no good idea for me

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Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:57 am

Lindi wrote:no good idea for me


Why not?

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Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:01 pm

Ace wrote:Why not?


if the area is take by ennemy when you leader is move on the last turn, first.

Second, because for me a one men can easy and fast move same in the ennemy area if is for go to own territory.


not sure but, in the 7 years war, if French leader need go see indian and need move in British area, he can go in solo for fast move and more chance to not dead.


Three, a officer if I good see he can't use for scout, or very bad scout and very more need leader for lead unit compare to scout..

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Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:12 pm

In theory, limiting single general units from crossing enemy territory makes sense, but I wonder about enforcement. For example, suppose I need to move my general 1 region east, but the computer pathing is to move south then north east, and the region south of me has 1 enemy cavalry unit. What would we do about that? Or in the west scenario, what if you send the invasion force to New Orleans, and only Butler survives. How does he get to the rest of the union army? He can't sail back to Washington in this scenario.

I would want to say no to that house rule, but I am open to arguments either way.
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Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:15 am

Lindi wrote:if the area is take by ennemy when you leader is move on the last turn, first.

Second, because for me a one men can easy and fast move same in the ennemy area if is for go to own territory.


not sure but, in the 7 years war, if French leader need go see indian and need move in British area, he can go in solo for fast move and more chance to not dead.


Three, a officer if I good see he can't use for scout, or very bad scout and very more need leader for lead unit compare to scout..

This isn't 1812, it's the 1860's and aside from the far west the population density is greater and it is much harder to travel unnoticed. A lone leader traveling on his through hundreds of miles of hostile territory, which he would not be familiar with and would not have accurate maps for is patently ridiculous as well as incredibly dangerous. Those blue uniforms are very conspicuous in the deep South. Don't feel like wearing your uniform? Then you get shot as a spy. Where is he going to get food for himself and his horse without being noticed? It is far too dangerous for Generals, the high command for both sides would forbid it.

Scouting supposes you have a way of getting a report to your headquarters. They didn't have radios in 1862, so a lone leader is going to do what? Send a carrier pigeon?

Lastly, lone leaders cannot be stopped from spying and they don't need supplies. That defeats the whole purpose of FOW. We might as well just turn it off then.

If you want to scout, send a cavalry regiment. Send a leader with a cavalry unit as escort if you want him to get through enemy controlled regions. That's 600 men to protect a General, a far more likely scenario.

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Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:34 am

Jim-NC wrote:In theory, limiting single general units from crossing enemy territory makes sense, but I wonder about enforcement. For example, suppose I need to move my general 1 region east, but the computer pathing is to move south then north east, and the region south of me has 1 enemy cavalry unit. What would we do about that? Or in the west scenario, what if you send the invasion force to New Orleans, and only Butler survives. How does he get to the rest of the union army? He can't sail back to Washington in this scenario.

I would want to say no to that house rule, but I am open to arguments either way.


Use replay to enforce. Or we could rely on the host to check the map after the turn runs. My proposal is simply to require that leaders be escorted by a combat unit if they want to travel through enemy controlled regions. In your example, that enemy cavalry unit isn't just there to scout, they are also a picket force guarding against enemy infiltration. Too bad lone leaders are invulnerable to interception. So give him an escort and see if he can get through.

Since I'm proposing this for future rounds, it really doesn't matter for the West Scenario. But let's say Butler's force is destroyed. Then he is either killed or wounded, and if wounded he will be recovering in the nearest Union held town. Problem solved.

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Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:05 am

Just to report guys, my USA game v Planefinder has ground to a halt, our host Liberty has tried to contact him several times and has gotten no reply...

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Idem for me with Lindi (USA) -- Jim-NC (CSA) last turn I have receive is 19 April

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Highlandcharge vs Planefinder,
last sign of Planefinder 10 APR.

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Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:29 pm

Lindi wrote:Idem for me with Lindi (USA) -- Jim-NC (CSA) last turn I have receive is 19 April


I believe Citizen X (our host) is on vacation, and may have limited connectivity to the internet.
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Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:48 pm

Jim-NC wrote:I believe Citizen X (our host) is on vacation, and may have limited connectivity to the internet.


yes :neener: , but with not other host for this time, is more slow. But very ok for me.

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Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:54 am

New results.

FelixZ vs Highlandcharge. Late Aug
Union NM 150 511 vp
CSA NM 70 328 vp

Union victory declared for 150 NM. This game is now over.
FelixZ 1511 vp total
Highlandcharge 328 vp total

CSA casualties 63,569
USA casualties 30,092 holds 21,500 prisoners.

Congratulations to FelixZ

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As some of you know, I am on holidays. Now returning home. I had a bit trouble maintaining connection to the internet the past days. I am currently returning home and provede as normal within next 24 hours, hopefully sooner. Sorry for inconvenience, the cutoff was rather unexpected.

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Update Pool D Liberty Bell(USA) vs moni kerr(CSA) - L Aug 62

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Citizen X wrote:As some of you know, I am on holidays. Now returning home. I had a bit trouble maintaining connection to the internet the past days. I am currently returning home and provede as normal within next 24 hours, hopefully sooner. Sorry for inconvenience, the cutoff was rather unexpected.

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Liberty Bell wrote:Highlandcharge vs Planefinder,
last sign of Planefinder 10 APR.


I have seen he made some posts in the meantime. Has he given up?

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Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:54 pm

Probably given up. His 2nd game never progressed beyond L Mar 62. .hst was sent on 4/7/14

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Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:04 am

Than we are in need of volunteer to fill in his place...

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