Blacks Originally Helped Create Stonewall Jackson Monuments
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:55 am
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Blacks Originally Helped Create Stonewall Jackson Monuments
"The first step in liquidating a people is to erase its memory. Destroy its books, its history. Then have somebody write new books, manufacture a new culture, invent a new history"
-Milan Hubl, Czek communist
"It means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War, will be impressed by all influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, our maimed veterans as fit objects for their derision."
-Major General Patrick Cleburne, C.S.A. Jan. 2, 1864
African American Contributions to memorials for Jackson
When the statue for General Jackson was put up in the cemetery where he is now buried, the first contribution came from Lexington's Baptist Church for negroes. This church was established by a member of Mr. Jackson's Sunday-school.
“Thomas Jackson, like Jesus, was willing to cross real boundaries for the sake of the Gospel.”
-pastor Bill Reinhold
The all black Fifth Avenue Presbyterian church in Roanoke Virginia raised the funds and on may 10 1906 installed a stain glass window in memory of stonewall Jackson. It reads “in memory of stonewall Jackson” and Jackson's last words “Let us cross over the river and rest in the shade of the trees.” This date was significant for two reasons. First, it was on May 10, 1863, that Jackson uttered his immortal dying words: “Let us cross over the river and rest in the shade of the trees.” Second, 1906 marked the 50th anniversary of the beginning of Jackson’s black Sunday school. The ceremony attended by church members and local sons of confederate veterans. It is still displayed today to honor Jackson. He is the only confederate to have a memorial built dedicated to him in a African American church raised only by blacks. The descendants of his bible school.
Jackson Emphatically the Black Mans Friend
“he was emphatically the black mans friend.”
Jackson's reverend William White
Jackson started a bible study for slaves and free blacks called the Lexington colored Sabbath school where 80-100 local blacks attended. He would teach them to sing songs like amazing grace and read so they could study the bible. It was “entirely his creation, he conceived it, financed it, organized it, and promoted it” said Jackson's reverend William White. Jackson's wife said he was never more happy than when he was teaching at the colored Sabbath school. When a lawyer told Jackson it was illegal to have such large numbers of slaves gathered together Jackson responded “Sir, if you were, as you should be, a christian man, you would not think it or say it.” to Jackson their were Gods laws, and man s laws, he would follow Gods laws. Jackson contributed to the school even away at war until his death.
“He [Jackson] had stated on several occasions he wished the slaves could be freed”
-Richard G Williams Stonewall Jackson the black man's friend
Jackson was a slave owner but did not hold pro slavery views. He wished that slavery would endbut believed God had ordained slavery and only God could abolish it. He should be judged as a man from his time where slavery was legal around the world for thousands of years and an accepted way of life believed to ordained by God. He was kind and gentle to his servants and because of his reputation, two of his slaves asked Jackson to purchase them and he did so. He also allowed them freedom when they wished. One slave Jackson adopted was 4 year old Emma who was mentally hadicapped. His servants reverenced him and “loved him, as they would have done a brother or father” when Jackson got word his elderly house servant Amy passed he wept as if a close loved family member had passed, because they did. Jackson asked how his slaves were doing in letters home during the war and sent gifts on holidays. His slaves joined in mourning his death.
“Jackson neither apologized for nor spoke in favor of the practice of slavery. He probably opposed the institution. Yet in his mind the Creator had sanctioned slavery, and man had no moral right to challenge its existence. The good Christian slaveholder was one who treated his servants fairly and humanely at all times.”
-James I. Robertson, Stonewall Jackson : The Man, The Soldier, The Legend
Jackson had a close personal relationship with his servant Jim Lewis who tearfully led Jackson horse to his burial place at his ceremony. It had become common remark in the camp that none knows of the generals plans but this old negro. Asked how he became in such confidence of the general
"Lord sir, "Massa never tells me nothing, but the way I knows is this. Massa says his prayers twice a day, morning and night. But if he gets out of bed three times in the night to pray, you see I just commences packing my sack, for I know there's will be the devil to pay the next day"
Lewis gave advice to Jackson who took his recommendations, their were few people Jackson listened to, Lewis was one of them.
Some find it unimaginable that a master could possible love his slaves and treat them well. That is only because we are taught the abolitionist/ uncle toms cabin version of slavery in America, instead of the historical version of what slavery in America was like, seeLook Away Politically Incorrect Information About Slavery
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-About-Slavery
Jackson was Pro Union
Jackson was a pro union man and was against secession. He sought peace between secessionist and unionist by working with churches north, and south, to unite in a national day of prayer to plead to God to avert a war. Jackson once had a secession flag removed at VMI that students had put up and he replaced it with the union flag. Jackson was very anti-war as a result of his experiences in the Mexican-american war. Jackson said “people who are anxious to bring on war don't know what they are beginning for.” He called war “the sum of all evils”
Why did he Fight?
Jackson was a moderate states rights democrat who favored keeping Washington's nose out of Virginians business and working within the union to resolve differences and remained pro union after the deep south secession. However what changed for many in Virginia when Lincoln called for volunteers to invade the deep south cotton states. This was seen by Jackson as it was most Virginians, as a major violation of state sovereignty and the constitution, and a just cause for secession. Jackson thought it unimaginable that a “fellow American would invade and fight another American.”
“To Jackson, Lincoln had launched a war of aggression against sovereign states, that is why he fought”
-S.C Gwynne Rebel Yell The Violence, Passion and Redemption of Stonewall Jackson Simon and Schuster 2014
Like most antebellum Americans Jackson's first loyalty was to his state. When Virginia left their was no question as to Jackson allegiance.
“He believed the constitutional rights of the states had been invaded, and he never had a doubt as to where his allegiance was due. His sword belonged to his state”
-Anna Jackson Wife of Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson
His wife Anna said “He would never have fought for the sole object of perpetrating slavery.”
“Jackson fought for the constitutional rights of the South, and any one who imagines he fought for slavery knows nothing of Jackson.”
-William C. Chase, in Story of Stonewall Jackson : A Narrative of the Career of Thomas Jonathan (Stonewall) Jackson
Lincolns call for volunteers led Jackson and Virginia to leave the union, nothing to do with slavery like the cotton states.
Causes of Southern Seccession- the Upper South
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...he-Upper-South
An American Hero- Northern Reactions to Jackson Death
Jackson was seen as an American hero because of his religious faith, his bravery, and his character. He was a loving husband and father who loved children, a caring, kind, gentle person who had great compassion on his soldiers and civilians sick, wounded or mistreated.
“Northerners pride themselves that he was a fellow citizen of the republic, an American, independent of northern or southern birth”
-Catherine Hopley
“In the north there was widespread admiration for Jackson, for both his christian piety and his warrior prowess...an Honorable man”
-Harpers Weekly
“quiet, modest, brave, noble, Honorable, and pure. He fought neither for reputation know, nor for future personal advancement.”
-Henry Beecher abolitionist newspaper the Independent
“Stonewall Jackson was a great general, a brave soldier, a noble christian, and a pure man”
-Washington Chronicle
Abraham Lincoln wrote in a response to the editor thanking him for the “excellent” article on Jackson
“this army takes pride in Stonewall...to have fought against him is next to having fought under him
-Charles Adams Jr Union solider
“In my soldiers heart I cannot but see him as the best solider of all this war, and grieve at his untimely death
-Union general Governer Warren
References
-Stonewall Jackson: The Black Man's Friend by Richard G. Williams Jr. (Author), James. I. Robertson Jr.
-Still Standing: The Stonewall Jackson Story James I Robertson Jr. (Actor), Bill Potter (Actor), Ken Carpenter (Director)
--S.C Gwynne Rebel Yell The Violence, Passion and Redemption of Stonewall Jackson Simon and Schuster 2014
-Such Troops as these The Genius and Leadership of confederate General Stonewall Jackson Bevin Alexander Berkeley Caliber 2014
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread ... -Monuments
Blacks Originally Helped Create Stonewall Jackson Monuments
"The first step in liquidating a people is to erase its memory. Destroy its books, its history. Then have somebody write new books, manufacture a new culture, invent a new history"
-Milan Hubl, Czek communist
"It means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War, will be impressed by all influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, our maimed veterans as fit objects for their derision."
-Major General Patrick Cleburne, C.S.A. Jan. 2, 1864
African American Contributions to memorials for Jackson
When the statue for General Jackson was put up in the cemetery where he is now buried, the first contribution came from Lexington's Baptist Church for negroes. This church was established by a member of Mr. Jackson's Sunday-school.
“Thomas Jackson, like Jesus, was willing to cross real boundaries for the sake of the Gospel.”
-pastor Bill Reinhold
The all black Fifth Avenue Presbyterian church in Roanoke Virginia raised the funds and on may 10 1906 installed a stain glass window in memory of stonewall Jackson. It reads “in memory of stonewall Jackson” and Jackson's last words “Let us cross over the river and rest in the shade of the trees.” This date was significant for two reasons. First, it was on May 10, 1863, that Jackson uttered his immortal dying words: “Let us cross over the river and rest in the shade of the trees.” Second, 1906 marked the 50th anniversary of the beginning of Jackson’s black Sunday school. The ceremony attended by church members and local sons of confederate veterans. It is still displayed today to honor Jackson. He is the only confederate to have a memorial built dedicated to him in a African American church raised only by blacks. The descendants of his bible school.
Jackson Emphatically the Black Mans Friend
“he was emphatically the black mans friend.”
Jackson's reverend William White
Jackson started a bible study for slaves and free blacks called the Lexington colored Sabbath school where 80-100 local blacks attended. He would teach them to sing songs like amazing grace and read so they could study the bible. It was “entirely his creation, he conceived it, financed it, organized it, and promoted it” said Jackson's reverend William White. Jackson's wife said he was never more happy than when he was teaching at the colored Sabbath school. When a lawyer told Jackson it was illegal to have such large numbers of slaves gathered together Jackson responded “Sir, if you were, as you should be, a christian man, you would not think it or say it.” to Jackson their were Gods laws, and man s laws, he would follow Gods laws. Jackson contributed to the school even away at war until his death.
“He [Jackson] had stated on several occasions he wished the slaves could be freed”
-Richard G Williams Stonewall Jackson the black man's friend
Jackson was a slave owner but did not hold pro slavery views. He wished that slavery would endbut believed God had ordained slavery and only God could abolish it. He should be judged as a man from his time where slavery was legal around the world for thousands of years and an accepted way of life believed to ordained by God. He was kind and gentle to his servants and because of his reputation, two of his slaves asked Jackson to purchase them and he did so. He also allowed them freedom when they wished. One slave Jackson adopted was 4 year old Emma who was mentally hadicapped. His servants reverenced him and “loved him, as they would have done a brother or father” when Jackson got word his elderly house servant Amy passed he wept as if a close loved family member had passed, because they did. Jackson asked how his slaves were doing in letters home during the war and sent gifts on holidays. His slaves joined in mourning his death.
“Jackson neither apologized for nor spoke in favor of the practice of slavery. He probably opposed the institution. Yet in his mind the Creator had sanctioned slavery, and man had no moral right to challenge its existence. The good Christian slaveholder was one who treated his servants fairly and humanely at all times.”
-James I. Robertson, Stonewall Jackson : The Man, The Soldier, The Legend
Jackson had a close personal relationship with his servant Jim Lewis who tearfully led Jackson horse to his burial place at his ceremony. It had become common remark in the camp that none knows of the generals plans but this old negro. Asked how he became in such confidence of the general
"Lord sir, "Massa never tells me nothing, but the way I knows is this. Massa says his prayers twice a day, morning and night. But if he gets out of bed three times in the night to pray, you see I just commences packing my sack, for I know there's will be the devil to pay the next day"
Lewis gave advice to Jackson who took his recommendations, their were few people Jackson listened to, Lewis was one of them.
Some find it unimaginable that a master could possible love his slaves and treat them well. That is only because we are taught the abolitionist/ uncle toms cabin version of slavery in America, instead of the historical version of what slavery in America was like, seeLook Away Politically Incorrect Information About Slavery
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-About-Slavery
Jackson was Pro Union
Jackson was a pro union man and was against secession. He sought peace between secessionist and unionist by working with churches north, and south, to unite in a national day of prayer to plead to God to avert a war. Jackson once had a secession flag removed at VMI that students had put up and he replaced it with the union flag. Jackson was very anti-war as a result of his experiences in the Mexican-american war. Jackson said “people who are anxious to bring on war don't know what they are beginning for.” He called war “the sum of all evils”
Why did he Fight?
Jackson was a moderate states rights democrat who favored keeping Washington's nose out of Virginians business and working within the union to resolve differences and remained pro union after the deep south secession. However what changed for many in Virginia when Lincoln called for volunteers to invade the deep south cotton states. This was seen by Jackson as it was most Virginians, as a major violation of state sovereignty and the constitution, and a just cause for secession. Jackson thought it unimaginable that a “fellow American would invade and fight another American.”
“To Jackson, Lincoln had launched a war of aggression against sovereign states, that is why he fought”
-S.C Gwynne Rebel Yell The Violence, Passion and Redemption of Stonewall Jackson Simon and Schuster 2014
Like most antebellum Americans Jackson's first loyalty was to his state. When Virginia left their was no question as to Jackson allegiance.
“He believed the constitutional rights of the states had been invaded, and he never had a doubt as to where his allegiance was due. His sword belonged to his state”
-Anna Jackson Wife of Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson
His wife Anna said “He would never have fought for the sole object of perpetrating slavery.”
“Jackson fought for the constitutional rights of the South, and any one who imagines he fought for slavery knows nothing of Jackson.”
-William C. Chase, in Story of Stonewall Jackson : A Narrative of the Career of Thomas Jonathan (Stonewall) Jackson
Lincolns call for volunteers led Jackson and Virginia to leave the union, nothing to do with slavery like the cotton states.
Causes of Southern Seccession- the Upper South
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...he-Upper-South
An American Hero- Northern Reactions to Jackson Death
Jackson was seen as an American hero because of his religious faith, his bravery, and his character. He was a loving husband and father who loved children, a caring, kind, gentle person who had great compassion on his soldiers and civilians sick, wounded or mistreated.
“Northerners pride themselves that he was a fellow citizen of the republic, an American, independent of northern or southern birth”
-Catherine Hopley
“In the north there was widespread admiration for Jackson, for both his christian piety and his warrior prowess...an Honorable man”
-Harpers Weekly
“quiet, modest, brave, noble, Honorable, and pure. He fought neither for reputation know, nor for future personal advancement.”
-Henry Beecher abolitionist newspaper the Independent
“Stonewall Jackson was a great general, a brave soldier, a noble christian, and a pure man”
-Washington Chronicle
Abraham Lincoln wrote in a response to the editor thanking him for the “excellent” article on Jackson
“this army takes pride in Stonewall...to have fought against him is next to having fought under him
-Charles Adams Jr Union solider
“In my soldiers heart I cannot but see him as the best solider of all this war, and grieve at his untimely death
-Union general Governer Warren
References
-Stonewall Jackson: The Black Man's Friend by Richard G. Williams Jr. (Author), James. I. Robertson Jr.
-Still Standing: The Stonewall Jackson Story James I Robertson Jr. (Actor), Bill Potter (Actor), Ken Carpenter (Director)
--S.C Gwynne Rebel Yell The Violence, Passion and Redemption of Stonewall Jackson Simon and Schuster 2014
-Such Troops as these The Genius and Leadership of confederate General Stonewall Jackson Bevin Alexander Berkeley Caliber 2014