Kensai wrote:You can still win, but I expect a minor victory. Remember that the total victory points for the Entente are the sum of WE and EE. With WE knocked out, you should only expect to keep what you have and win by a small margin (by surviving). Last, please remember that Lemelem's victory should not be the norm, especially in harder difficulty settings and/or against humans. Thus, do not freak out if you are not that successful.
Ace wrote:Do you really think Russia could stand a month fighting Germany and AH on its own? If the Schliefen plan succeed, we would probably have a peace conference where all sides excepted peace, with Russia getting a status quo.
Aurelin wrote:Can you keep playing? Yes. Conduct diplomacy? No.
Not very player friendly for a nation that conducted diplomacy is it.
And as an aside, kind of hard to have a peace conference if you have no ambassadors to hold one.
Lenin wasn't are Brest-Litovsk after all.
Ace wrote:To return to the diplomacy, if France was defeated, would Russia be able to convince anybody to join their cause?
I don't think so. If the solution is to transfer diplomacy to the Russians and have all neutrals set to +99% alignment to the CP.
If we are taling about what ifs, there may have been a chance for Britain and Russia to continue the conflict, but if Britain excepted peace, Russia would follow no matter what.
Ace wrote:To return to the diplomacy, if France was defeated, would Russia be able to convince anybody to join their cause?
I don't think so. If the solution is to transfer diplomacy to the Russians and have all neutrals set to +99% alignment to the CP.
If we are taling about what ifs, there may have been a chance for Britain and Russia to continue the conflict, but if Britain excepted peace, Russia would follow no matter what.
Florent wrote:25 years later it was the Nazis, not exactly what the germans of 1914 were.
Ace wrote:Do you really think Russia could stand a month fighting Germany and AH on its own? If the Schliefen plan succeed, we would probably have a peace conference where all sides excepted peace, with Russia getting a status quo.
HerrDan wrote:I'd think some people here just like need to study more history before making stupid comments here (but perhaps they make stupid comments just to get the attention "they" want or even need, but in any way I'm just a teacher and not a psychologist...).
fred zeppelin wrote:I just wanted to know how the game works. The defensiveness of the beta team suggests that my question falls into the category of "Gee, we never thought about that."
I've been a beta tester, too. It happens.
HerrDan wrote:Indeed it was tested, I was actually the first of the beta team to win against the WE and the E.E surrendered all together and we discussed it a lot (even I suggested that perhaps the russians could fight a little longer after the fall of the Entente, but in the end I agreed that they probably wouldn't) but we reached a consensus that the russians wouldn't keep fighting alone and this is IMO a very realistic aproach.
Cheers.
fred zeppelin wrote:Sorry but I'm now confused again. (Not arguing - I promise - just trying to understand the game.)
I understood from what was said earlier that if the AI-controlled WE surrenders, the human EE player can keep playing. Your statement - "(even I suggested that perhaps the russians could fight a little longer after the fall of the Entente, but in the end I agreed that they probably wouldn't) but we reached a consensus that the russians wouldn't keep fighting alone" - suggests that's not the case.
I understand the diplomacy part - that's WE-controlled regardless - but what's the answer on whether I can keep playing the campaign if the WE surrenders? (I realize that's unlikely, but I'd like to know how the game works.)
Thanks.
fred zeppelin wrote:Correct. The Germans of 1914 had nothing like the mobility or logistical capability of the Germans in 1940. The traditional Russian practice of trading space for time would have been an even more formidable obstacle to a post-Victorian army. That the Nazis couldn't do it suggests it's highly unlikely that the Imperial Army could have either.
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