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Who done it?? The Butler did it.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:32 pm
by Wheat
Ok, this is just craziness and needs some fixing.

Benny the Butler loses a battle on turn Late April 62 at Leesburg. He retreats to Alexandria, and takes over a battle from McDowell, and loses again SAME TURN.

He is wounded, and lo and behold, assigned to recovery in Alexandria VA for FIVE TURNS!!!.

Benny, not one to follow doctors orders, arises from his bed to take charge the next turn in battle. Another loss. Alexandria is besieged but hey, doesn't matter I have better commanders present, wounded Benny is above all in senoirity.

For five turns. He can't be moved, he is "wounded". I think Benny is scamming the system.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:31 pm
by Cardinal Ape
Someone gave Butler the order to attack and he obeyed. But maybe you will get lucky and Butler will get captured in the siege.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:58 am
by DrPostman
Even wounded leaders will defend when attacked.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:05 am
by tripax
Would he still be in command if put into passive?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:57 pm
by Captain_Orso
DrPostman wrote:Even wounded leaders will defend when attacked.

Yes, if he's breathing, he's leading.

tripax wrote:Would he still be in command if put into passive?


Yes, but I believe he would pass his passive status on to the troops he is commanding, not by making them passive too, but by making them suffer from him being passive.

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If he's in the region, and highest in rank, he's in command.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:02 pm
by tripax
Captain_Orso wrote:Yes, but I believe he would pass his passive status on to the troops he is commanding, not by making them passive too, but by making them suffer from him being passive.

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If he's in the region, and highest in rank, he's in command.


That is weird. So even if he is in command of a stack and is passive and in the city and there is another stack on defend outside of the city, the inside the city stack won't join the fight but its commander will?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:54 pm
by Captain_Orso
The stack inside the city will only come out if it has the SortieOut-SO and is otherwise eligible (not locked, leader activated).

The highest ranking leader in the region--whether activated or not, whether wounded or not, whether inside the structure-location (city, fort, depot, etc.) or not--is in command in the region, and his bonuses and penalties thru Offensive and defensive ratings and his abilities (positive and negative) will apply to all combat in the region, within the rules.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:48 pm
by minipol
Benny the butler, gave me a chuckle :)

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:42 am
by Projekt Pasha
My guess is the Butler did it in New Orleans with the Spoons!

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:25 pm
by Wheat
Projekt Pasha wrote:My guess is the Butler did it in New Orleans with the Spoons!


Ha! I say Pasha gets it correct with this one.

But, still, in a historical sense, I am still doubtful an army commander, having lost his entire command, rides 20 miles, and seizes the units of ANOTHER ARMY COMMANDER, despite his better senoirity, all in the same 15 days.

This will happen it seems, anytime a commander retreats from battle into an adjacent area, and if senior, seizes command and fights in any battles that occur in said adjacent area. This along with other things, creates a bit more randomness in outcomes that some of us old time wargamers are happy with.