Heldenkaiser wrote:I seem to be the only one interested in adding traits to British leaders.
PJJ wrote:Generally speaking, most British generals of the Revolutionary war were quite mediocre.
PJJ wrote:Okay, what about Lt. Col. Banastre Tarleton? On the basis of his actions in the South, I think he deserves the traits Pillager and Hated Occupier. I don't have BoA installed at the moment, so I can't check what traits he has now... he was an able cavalry commander, but far too aggressive for his own good.
Heldenkaiser wrote:But basically these guys were professional soldiers put in an impossible situation--fighting a war at the end of fragile supply lines spanning the width of an ocean, and in a huge country that they could never hope to pacify by military power alone anyway. Some may have had their jobs primarily due to political patronage (happened in all countries) and many of them may have lacked the flexibility to adapt to a kind of warfare that their training had ill prepared them for.
PJJ wrote:Speaking of Tarleton, I think his often reckless tendencies on the battlefield should earn him also the title, well, Reckless.
FM WarB wrote:Greene moved fast in 1781 because he gathered boats at the river crossing sites. Make him a Pontoneer to reflect this.
Carrington wrote:First, there's the interesting issue of Benedict Arnold.... He also deserves a nice range of traits, some better than others.
Then there are the Tory leaders -- an interesting bunch.
StatboyVT wrote:When Arnold switches over the British, I'd recommend the "Scorched Earth" trait. He led a raid in Connecticut and burned a town or two.
Regarding the General John Burgoyne discussion above, note that Burgoyne's troops loved him. Perhaps a trait to reflect that?
I had that thought too ... I don't know how many traits in any one person BOA2 will permit, but I'll add "Admired Commander", or maybe "Morale Booster"?
lodilefty wrote:Actual abilities per leader are almost unlimited. The display, however is limited to 4.
These inputs are timely, as I am working up the next update of units and models....
Heldenkaiser wrote:I'll add it.
I am still pondering Burgoyne. He is a paradox. Apparantely he moved slowly not so much out of extreme caution (his foraging expedition to the East was the exact opposite of caution), but out of a desire to land one mighty blow and make it as decisive as possible. Hence the 52 guns he dragged through the wilderness although they slowed his march to a crawl. But he is actually described as cheerful, optimistic, certain of a positive result. He was an outspoken advocate of the bayonet charge, which certainly speaks for a bold approach and a readiness to stake everything on one card. He wanted to get the job done, but in his own good time. It may be stretching the point, but he reminds me of Longstreet or Thomas in the ACW.
I guess I am looking for Strong Morale or some similar positive trait? Or Brave?
lodilefty wrote:Right now I've got Burgoyne with
$Slow_Move $Cavalryman $Beloved_By_Army $Brave
I'm thinking of 'Dispirited Leader' for British version of Arnold - the Rits never really trusted him.... [would you? ]
Pocus wrote:Genius is only a container yes, and it can be used creatively. Like creating a container named 'I'm the worse leader on earth', which would add 4 penalties for the price of one (Drunkard Stupid Moronic Idiot perhaps?).
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