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Ebbingford
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Canadian militia in FIW

Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:28 pm

Moved onto the FIW now, playing as France, 1.10e +QF2.
I have seen several mentions about this problem, but haven't seen an answer/solution......
As France you get one year when the militias flock to your flag to defend their homeland and join you, after that, nothing, it's like the event is only firing for one year instead of every year.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Is it easily fixable?
What event and what line needs changing in it?

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:32 pm

Do you have a save file along with ScriptReports ?

I will have a look to it.

Regards

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Ebbingford
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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:45 pm

Yes, But I can't see how to add files on here anymore....... :papy:

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Ebbingford
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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:19 pm

Done a dropbox link for you Bohemond, hope it works.
Thanks for looking :)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/deizy7jdvin7zfo/AACLS8trCE2SDOr1lp6unyzma?dl=0

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:20 pm

You may attach zip, etc files in "Help to improve" and "technical support" subfora.



Alternatively you may upload elsewhere and post a link, like

https://easyupload.io/


Edit: and of course dropbox as you did :)

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:22 pm

Thanks anyway Nikel :cool:

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:51 am

I got the files,

Unit autoraise and dismiss do not apply to France side. Only GRB one.
I have not found any issue with Setup nor events.
Obviously not working as intended.

I will have to make some additional tests.

Is Autoraise working for both sides in others scenarios ?

Regards

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:35 am

I have only played as the British in my play through the game so far, and yes, militias were raised for them in both FIW and AWI scenarios.
The dismiss seems to be working as all the Canadian militias that were raised in the one year that militia were called plus any units already in game have all gone home.

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:13 pm

The issue is related to Loyalty management in WIA.

The scenario setup is designed without taking in account loyalty Rules.
IMHO , loyalty rule was introduced, after BOA/WIA release, for AACW.
For Autoraise to work for FRA side, the regions need to have some loyalty percentage towards FRA.
Right now the loyalty value for FRA is 0 for all regions.

I did generate a test scenario and made several tests with 100% loyalty in Québec city region

13:03:08 (Reporting) Patriotic leader in area 65 base adjusted by -1
13:03:08 (Reporting) AutoRaise coeff in Area 65 for France Canadian Militia %: 69 PoolCoeff: 100 MaxNb: 2
13:03:08 (Reporting) Region 80 Kebec will be used for UnitDef 223 Canadian Militia
13:03:08 (Reporting) Raising France - 1ère Québec in region 80 Kebec
13:03:08 (Reporting) Region 80 Kebec will be used for UnitDef 223 Canadian Militia
13:03:08 (Reporting) Raising France - 2ème Québec in region 80 Kebec

The solution will be modify the setup (cities file) with corrected loyalty for all regions and generate a new scenario.
Not really a big deal. I can do it if you want to test it.
It can have a nice impact on Gameplay for sure.

The issue seems to be a known one as we can find in Patch 1.10 Rc4 notes

Fixed bug that prevented AutoRaise of units in scenarios with Loyalty Rule off [FIW, 1812, Native Wars]

But the fix seems not working as expected.

Maybe Lodi can elaborate.

Regards

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:00 pm

I'll give it a go it you want me to, this scenario is hard enough as France atm :cool:
Extra units are needed :D

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:24 am

Updated scenario cant be found at


https://www.dropbox.com/s/g7wkzmp6rcesnzz/1755%20Campaign_COL.scn?dl=0

Please comment when you will have a chance to give it a try.
Copy paste in WIA/scens
You will need to start a new game.

Working fine in my tests.

Note : Do not forget to backup the existing 1755 Campaign_COL.scn in case you want to revert to it.

Regards

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:11 pm

erf!
At best I have a vague recollection of this issue, but it has simply been too long for me to help with this.... :papy: :crying:

[my old brain is clogged up with design work in too many other game systems!!]

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:25 pm

Thanks for this work guys. This is one of my favorite scenarios, so I will review too, assuming you do not mind.

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:06 pm

lodilefty wrote:erf!
At best I have a vague recollection of this issue, but it has simply been too long for me to help with this.... :papy: :crying:

[my old brain is clogged up with design work in too many other game systems!!]


Haha, I feel the same :)

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:17 pm

Bohémond wrote:Updated scenario cant be found at


https://www.dropbox.com/s/g7wkzmp6rcesnzz/1755%20Campaign_COL.scn?dl=0

Please comment when you will have a chance to give it a try.
Copy paste in WIA/scens
You will need to start a new game.

Working fine in my tests.

Note : Do not forget to backup the existing 1755 Campaign_COL.scn in case you want to revert to it.

Regards


The files are no longer
Is there any way to get them back?
Thanks in advance

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:22 pm

Here you go

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d40r6xhcwo2gd ... L.zip?dl=0


A jugar y a disfrutar (dixit Picaron)

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:54 pm

Muchas gracias Bohemond
Un saludo

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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:26 pm

Is there any place I can find this "fix" for the French Loyality problem ???

The above links no longer work.

Thanks


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Re: Canadian militia in FIW

Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:13 am

Thank you and I'll give it a try. :thumbsup:

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