AACW (public beta) Patch 1.16 rc2 (November 23 at 23:23 UTC)

[Paul Roberts]

I've played a little AACW and also WIA with this week's new generation of patches, and I think I've had two battles where a general was congratulated for victory (and gained better seniority) despite the fact that the battle was lost. This happened once in AACW and once in WIA.

Casualties in both battles were worse for me than for the winning side.

I know that this kind of thing is sometimes possible, but seeing it so quickly with both new patches makes me wonder if there's a problem.

Is this something to worry about? I can submit a save for at least one of the battle results, I think. (I'll have to get home from vacation first.)

Now I'm home, and here's a save (Beta patch 1.16rc2 with the additional scripts Lodilefty posted here, no mods). Playing CSA.

Sterling Price has just retreated from battle in Springfield, MO, but he has been congratulated for his victory and earned seniority. The sides in the battle were equal 1351 and 1350 men. Price lost 215 men and the Union lost 123.

[richfed]

Satisfied that the game is pretty stable, I did a new, clean install of 1.16 RC2 with the 2 new files provided by Lodilefty. Then, began a new campaign.

Something I never noticed: in the Options Screen ---> AI Settings -- what used to say "Difficulty," I believe, now says "IA Ranking". [Should be AI, yes?]. The options are Corporal, Major, Lieutenant, and Colonel - in that order, from easiest to hard. I believe the middle 2 ought to be switched.

[Pocus]

in France at least Major is under Lieutenant. Is it not the case in others countries? Yes this is a (mostly) cosmetic novelty.

As for earning promotion while retreating, this is WAD. If the officer really performed well during the battle, he can still be congratulated, whatever the final outcome.

I'll take a look at the depot problem.

[Rafiki]

in France at least Major is under Lieutenant. Is it not the case in others countries? Yes this is a (mostly) cosmetic novelty.

Aw, you French people. Why do you have to do stuff in your own special way in so many cases?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_officer_rank_insignia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army_officer_rank_insignia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ranks_and_insignia_of_Norway#Army

[Farseer]

in France at least Major is under Lieutenant. Is it not the case in others countries? Yes this is a (mostly) cosmetic novelty.

As for earning promotion while retreating, this is WAD. If the officer really performed well during the battle, he can still be congratulated, whatever the final outcome.

1: I never heard of a country that has Lieutenant above Major before. I guess the french are unique in many ways. Mostly in good ways. =)

2: I always see that after winning, a general gain seniority and congratulations for his "Victory" while when losing they gain seniority and congratulations for their "engagement with the enemy", not for winning. This has never been reported wrongly in my games.

[lodilefty]

Originally Posted by Pocus
in France at least Major is under Lieutenant. Is it not the case in others countries? Yes this is a (mostly) cosmetic novelty.

hmmm. This easily explains many of the "Command and Control" issues in French Military History:

Waterloo, Sedan, Battle of the Frontiers, Blitzkrieg, Dien Bien Phoo...

"Who's in Command?
"The Lieutenant, Sir! Fresh out of school!"

[Paul Roberts]

Well, non-French armies still use "Lieutenant Colonel" just below "Colonel," so that's probably the same post the French call "Lieutenant."

I guess the non-French "Lieutenants" are something like a "Lieutenant Captain."

[gchristie]

Aw, you French people. Why do you have to do stuff in your own special way in so many cases?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_officer_rank_insignia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army_officer_rank_insignia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ranks_and_insignia_of_Norway#Army

Reminds me of the old Steve Martin gag - "Boy, those French, they have a different word for everything!"

I can also confirm that river transports will not build depots.

[lodilefty]

Now I'm home, and here's a save (Beta patch 1.16rc2 with the additional scripts Lodilefty posted here, no mods). Playing CSA.

Sterling Price has just retreated from battle in Springfield, MO, but he has been congratulated for his victory and earned seniority. The sides in the battle were equal 1351 and 1350 men. Price lost 215 men and the Union lost 123.

Yes, rather strange...

..perhaps he's rewarded for successfully salvaging the Militia, most of who will probably vote for Secession....



Will add to the buglist. Thanks!

[Jarkko]

Off topic: In France "Major" is the highest NCO rank, comparable to "Sergeant Major" in USA or "Staff Sergeant" in UK or "Oberstabsfeldwebel" in Germany or "Suboficial Mayor" in Spain.

Elsewhere "Major" (without prefixes or suffixes) is the officer rank between Captain and Colonel.

[Pocus]

Thanks Jarkko for sparing me the details. Major in France (when I did my military service anyway) was the rank above 'Chief Adjutant' [Chief Warrant Officer in English I believe] and only achievable as a special thanks for long term of service.

If this is misleading for everyone but the French, no problem, I can change that.


Nb: In France, the rank between Captain and Colonel is 'Commandant'.

[richfed]

If not too much trouble, I would change it [if I were you]. If only because it is the AMERICAN Civil War the game represents.

[Gray_Lensman]

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[gchristie]

Trying out the 1.16rc2 patch and am into the late August 1861 turn. Playing as Union, I built two factories in Missouri on the first turn and I've yet to see any results from my investment in industrialization. In previous patches I'm pretty sure I would have seen some increase in ammo, general supply or war supplies by now. Happy to post saved game but I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing a lack of return on investing in industry in this current patch or I'm just getting some lousy rolls in industrial returns?

Other than that, everything else is working great

I tried a test with a new game by industrializing in 4 Union states and did see dividends paid on my investments, so I must have been getting lousy rolls in the other game. Glad this was not a bug, at least not in the game

[Pocus]

Btw, when I said "Thanks Jarkko for sparing me the details." it was to be considered as a positive remark, as in "thanks for explaining to others, so I have less to write"

I'll change the ranks.

[Franciscus]

Trying out the 1.16rc2 patch and am into the late August 1861 turn. Playing as Union, I built two factories in Missouri on the first turn and I've yet to see any results from my investment in industrialization. In previous patches I'm pretty sure I would have seen some increase in ammo, general supply or war supplies by now. Happy to post saved game but I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing a lack of return on investing in industry in this current patch or I'm just getting some lousy rolls in industrial returns?

Other than that, everything else is working great

I tried a test with a new game by industrializing in 4 Union states and did see dividends paid on my investments, so I must have been getting lousy rolls in the other game. Glad this was not a bug, at least not in the game

Playing as CSA, I also have seen factories producing WS, General supplies, etc., so I think that this is definitely working

[lodilefty]

http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?p=193614#post193614