Report Doubled Units thread

[PBBoeye]

[CENTER]This thread is for the purpose of [color="Red"]reporting doubled[/color] (or more) units that appear in the game. [/CENTER]
[CENTER][color="DeepSkyBlue"]All entries are Campaign Game, unless otherwise noted[/color][/CENTER]

What is more, I will officially volunteer to keep a running tab in this first post of all reported doubles so that players can scan the list and avoid repeats.

[CENTER][color="RoyalBlue"][SIZE="4"]Updated Doubles or Repeated Units List[/size][/color][/CENTER]

OLD

• CSA - 1st Tennessee Cavalry & Supply Train #5 (Knoxville) - Report Status: Open
• CSA - 1st Reserve Bde (Richmond) - Report Status: Open
• CSA - Semmes Repeat - Report Status: Fixed (v1.06d)
• CSA - doubling of Waite's Indian units - Report Status: Open
• CSA - various militia granted via event - Report Status: Open

NEW:

July Scenario:

1st occurence
Brigade: US Cavalry
Regiments: 7th US Cav. Co.
Led by: Maj. Palmer
Appears: Late July, 1861; Fairfax VA, 2nd division stack

2nd occurence
Brigade: US Cavalry
Regiments: 7th US Cav. Co.
Led by: Maj. J. Palmer
Appears: Early August, 1861; Taylor WV, West Virginia Command stack


1st occurence
Brigade: California Brigade
Regiments: 1st California, 2nd California, 4th California, 5th California (SS)
Led by: Brg. Gen. A. Black
Appears: Late July, 1861; Philadelphia, fixed for 3 turns

2nd occurence
Brigade: Philadelphia Brigade
Regiments: 69th Pennsylvania, 71st Pennsylvania, 72nd Pennsylvania, 106th Pennsylvani. (SS)
Led by: Col. F. Crooks
Appears: Early October, 1861; Philadelphia

As discussed elsewhere, the California and Philadelphia Brigades are the same troops. Please also note the name of the 106th ("." instead of "a" at the end of Pennsylvania).


1st occurence
Brigade: 1st Ohio Volunteers
Regiments: 1st OH Vol., 2nd OH Vol., 3rd OH Vol.
Led by: Col P. Benjamin
Appears: Late July, 1861; Cincinnati, fixed for 4 turns, Cincinnati Force stack

2nd occurence
Brigade: 1st Ohio Volunteers
Regiments: 1st OH Vol., 2nd OH Vol., 3rd OH Vol.
Led by: Col P. Benjamin
Appears: Late July, 1861; Cincinnati, fixed for 4 turns, Ohio Volunteers stack

[Le Ricain]

[CENTER]This thread is for the purpose of [color="Red"]reporting doubled[/color] (or more) units that appear in the game. [/CENTER]

[CENTER]Maybe Pocus would want to sticky this for us to keep it updated?[/CENTER]

What is more, I will officially volunteer to keep a running tab in this first post of all reported doubles so that players can scan the list and avoid repeats.

That said, let me add on the 1st Tennessee Cavalry:

It appears that your supply train is also doubled.

[PBBoeye]

Good eye. Never even thought to look.

[Pocus]

I would need to know which scenario and at which turn you got the doubling if possible, this is perhaps a scripting error. If this is not, then it can be a problem in the database.

[PBBoeye]

All posts from me are Campaign Game. I'll be alert to which turn they appear from now on. It's early enough that I can replay through a bunch of turns (without playing - just hit the turn advance) and keep checking forces. I'll do that when I get a chance and report back.

[richfed]

Not actually a double unit, but when Belle Boyd gets arrested [Full Campaign] the event is listed twice in the Mail Box.

[PBBoeye]

Not actually a double unit, but when Belle Boyd gets arrested [Full Campaign] the event is listed twice in the Mail Box.

That would be a doubled event lookup, somewhere in either the ACW or AGE text files. Easy to find - just get the wording of the event (or use the name) and search either file for it.

[PBBoeye]

First instance of Knoxville Force (Cav + Supply Train)


Note the two units tabs in the unit panel for the 'Knoxville Force'


1st Reserve Bde either starts the game or comes in during first turn or two as reinforcement. Second version arrives later in Virginia Reserve Group (shown in pic)

[Sean E]

Mentioned before in other threads, but the doubling up of the CSA Indian units.
April '61 campaign. V1.06d.

[img][IMG]http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/261/doublewaitegc6.jpg[/img][/IMG]

[Sean E]

Feb. 1863. And I get a stack of free militia units in various states. Trouble is some of these units have already come into play. They are no longer militia but trained up to infantry now.
But these guys will eventually train up as well. Surely they can be named differently or is this intended?
april '61 campaign. V1.06d.


[img][IMG]http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3937/doubleunitsic3.jpg[/img][/IMG]

[richfed]

Mentioned before in other threads, but the doubling up of the CSA Indian units.
April '61 campaign. V1.06d.

[img][IMG]http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/261/doublewaitegc6.jpg[/img][/IMG]

Yes. These units come in the second time as "reformed". Indicating - to me - that they had at some point previously, been disbanded by an event or something ... only they had not, so we end up with doubles.

[JB Hood]

1 st Mississippi Militia
1st Virginia Cavalry

[PBBoeye]

More info, like scenario, turn and location, please.

[PBBoeye]

Noticed something interesting.

When I merged the 1st Reserve Bde (VA) in Richmond into the second command that also shows up later with a 1st Reserve Bde, one of them vanishes. Not sure how that will help you.

However, I noticed that if I did the same thing with the 1st Tennessee Cavalry, one of the supply units vanishes (IIRC), but neither of the cavalry units vanishes. HOWEVER, one of the cavalry units changes its image!

[PBBoeye]

Yes. These units come in the second time as "reformed". Indicating - to me - that they had at some point previously, been disbanded by an event or something ... only they had not, so we end up with doubles.

Pocus, here's the issue, as found in VariousEvents.sct. The original units are created via CSAEvents.sct.

[color="RoyalBlue"]SelectFaction = $CSA
StartEvent = evt_nam_CSA_IndianRenewed01|1|1|NULL|NULL|NULL|NULL

Conditions
MinDate = 1862/03/01
EvalUnqUnit = Cherokee Mted Rifle Rgt.;NOT

Actions
DescEvent = evt_desc_CSA_IndianRenewed01
SelectRegion = $Gibson, IT
SelectRegInArea = $IT;Squared;OwnedCities;CondSkip
GenMsg
SelectRegInArea = $AR;Squared;OwnedCities;CondSkip
GenMsg

SelectFaction = $CSA
CreateGroup
Posture = $Defensive
SetKind = $Land
SetName = _genName
Apply
CreateUnit
SetType = $uni_IND_Bra1
FlavorName = Chief Blackbird
SUFlavorName = Cherokee Mounted Rifle Rgt.
SetName = Cherokee Rifle
Apply

EndEvent

SelectFaction = $CSA
StartEvent = evt_nam_CSA_IndianRenewed02|1|1|NULL|NULL|NULL|NULL

Conditions
MinDate = 1862/03/01
EvalUnqUnit = Drew's Cherokee Mted Rifle Rgt.;NOT

Actions
DescEvent = evt_desc_CSA_IndianRenewed02
SelectRegion = $Gibson, IT
SelectRegInArea = $IT;Squared;OwnedCities;CondSkip
GenMsg
SelectRegInArea = $AR;Squared;OwnedCities;CondSkip
GenMsg

SelectFaction = $CSA
CreateGroup
Posture = $Defensive
SetKind = $Land
SetName = _genName
Apply
CreateUnit
SetType = $uni_IND_Bra1
FlavorName = H. Drew
SUFlavorName = Drew's Cherokee Mounted Rifle Rgt.
SetName = Drew's Cherokee
Apply

EndEvent[/color]

[Pocus]

ok thanks. I got your mail too.

[Widell]

Great Campaign, 1.07f, PBEM, Turn 2, 5th Gunboat Squadron is duplicated. See attachment.

[Aurelin]

Grand Campaign as Union, two 1st MD Brigades in Baltimore. The locked one has 1st MD Vol, 2nd MD Vol, Maryland Rifles. The other has 1st & 2nd MD Vol, 3rd & 4th MD Vol, and 2nd Iowa. Late May 1861, 1.07f

[caranorn]

April Campaign, the 1st and 2nd Ohio Volunteer brigades are duplicated (both, identical regiments too).

[Brochgale]

Yes. These units come in the second time as "reformed". Indicating - to me - that they had at some point previously, been disbanded by an event or something ... only they had not, so we end up with doubles.

Custer obviously did not write the code for this one?I had a warped notion to send all those injuns to Virginia just to see if Custer showed up on the Rappahanock?

[johnnycai]

Had a 2nd Iron Bgd with a 2nd Gen. Auger show up in New York in Early July.
If you need screenshot or turn file let me know.

John

[Coregonas]

April full campaign

Several militia units came doubled. I remember

6 TN militia
Columbia militia

[tagwyn]

Wowsers!!! Maybe this is a way to increase Rebel forces for free!!! Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag with a single star!!! apy:

[Jabberwock]

Except now its a bonnie blue flag with six orange stars and a lady with a helmet on it. Maybe they had a bonnie blue pill?

[hootieleece]

I was playing a Union Campaign with version 1.03 thats the version that came with my hardcopy. (ordered about a month ago) I found that I had Reynolds commanding a Corps in one area and a division in another. Same with Sedgewick.

[Rafiki]

*Lots* of stuff has been fixed since 1.03, possibly even the duplicates you mention (haven't checked, though), Why not patch up to the current patch?

[Heldenkaiser]

Grand Campaign as Union, two 1st MD Brigades in Baltimore. The locked one has 1st MD Vol, 2nd MD Vol, Maryland Rifles. The other has 1st & 2nd MD Vol, 3rd & 4th MD Vol, and 2nd Iowa. Late May 1861, 1.07f

I still get this one under 1.09e.

[Heldenkaiser]

Also double: 2nd PA Brigade (7th, 8th, 9th PA Volunteers) arrives as part of Patterson's command in PA and also with Humphrey's in WV.

[Eugene Carr]

I think that with the Pa. volunteers its the names that are duplicated rather than the units. you should have 13 brigades of Volunteers after that event plus you get another in Maryland after the martial law event.

I'm playing with a modded setup ( Ohio troops in W.Va. instead of Pa. and different commander names) so I havent seen that for a while.

The Iwoa regt in Baltimore I think is because the brigade raised after the martial law event only has 2 regts and the game cant find a Maryland Light Infantry to fill the space so it uses 1st available, the brigade should presumably also be the 2nd MD Bde. or The Maryland Volunteers.

[mikee64]

Just an update under 1.10a, the Indian units are still being "reformed" even though the originals are still on the map. It happens during the Early March 1862 turn. Let me know if you need a save.

Mike