Revolts in garrisoned cities

Heldenkaiser · February 7th, 2009

Having played BoA for quite a while now, I was under the impression that garrisoning a city (in the ARW) was a guarantee against an uprising. However, last turn, for the first time I believe, I have seen a revolt in two cities that were garrisoned with regulars which were simply thrown out in the course of events. Am I seeing things? Or was I imagining things before, in thinking that a garrison would prevent an uprising?

Thanks!

Heldenkaiser · February 10th, 2009

Hm, anybody?

**PhilThib** · February 10th, 2009

When and where ? A save would be interesting.. We have to see if the 'Minutemen' rule works efficiently or not, or if this is event-related maybe

Heldenkaiser · February 10th, 2009

February 1778, in Peekskill and in Providence. I will post a file (.trn?) when I get home.

*lodilefty* · February 10th, 2009

We will need trn, hst and ord files for that turn, plus Backup1 and Backup2 sub folders...

Heldenkaiser · February 10th, 2009

All right, I will post those, thx.

Heldenkaiser · February 10th, 2009

I believe these are all the files you asked for. Thanks for any insights you can provide.

*lodilefty* · February 10th, 2009

I confirm that Minutemen are appearing in regions that have British presence.

The regions still had loyalty in favor of the AME side [all cases greater than 94% in fact], so this may be OK?

Heldenkaiser · February 11th, 2009

But then just what is the point of garrisoning a city, other than ensuring against revolt?

*lodilefty* · February 11th, 2009

Good point.

There is a request in for further information, but since BoA is 'legacy', it may be a while to get an answer.....

Heldenkaiser · February 26th, 2009

Any idea how long a while might be?

orca · March 2nd, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heldenkaiser

But then just what is the point of garrisoning a city, other than ensuring against revolt?

The obvious reason is to increase loyalty so that you'll be immune from revolts in the future.

Perhaps more importantly is stopping/reducing the American levies. If you don't garrison every strategic city in a region the Americans can still levy troops in that region.

I think revolts in cities with very low loyalty are fine.

JackoWords · March 10th, 2009

During the course of my games I have seen this as well, as one unit of American Militiamen sometimes toss over a thousand British regulars out on their rears. I noticed that it only occurs, however, when I set the British to 'Passive'.

Heldenkaiser · March 10th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackoWords

During the course of my games I have seen this as well, as one unit of American Militiamen sometimes toss over a thousand British regulars out on their rears. I noticed that it only occurs, however, when I set the British to 'Passive'.

Excellent point. Yes, my units probably were on passive, as they were to recover losses. And yes, it makes some sense that a "passive" unit would yield the city to the rebels rather than fight them ...

February 7th, 2009	#1
Heldenkaiser AGEod Grognard Join Date: March 2007 Posts: 943	Revolts in garrisoned cities Having played BoA for quite a while now, I was under the impression that garrisoning a city (in the ARW) was a guarantee against an uprising. However, last turn, for the first time I believe, I have seen a revolt in two cities that were garrisoned with regulars which were simply thrown out in the course of events. Am I seeing things? Or was I imagining things before, in thinking that a garrison would prevent an uprising? Thanks! __________________ "These Savages may indeed be a formidable Enemy to your raw American Militia, but, upon the King's regular & disciplined Troops, Sir, it is impossible they should make any Impression." -- General Edward Braddock Colonial Campaigns Club (supports BoA and WiA) "... and keep moving on." -- General U.S. Grant American Civil War Game Club (supports AACW)

February 10th, 2009	#2
Heldenkaiser AGEod Grognard Join Date: March 2007 Posts: 943	Hm, anybody? __________________ "These Savages may indeed be a formidable Enemy to your raw American Militia, but, upon the King's regular & disciplined Troops, Sir, it is impossible they should make any Impression." -- General Edward Braddock Colonial Campaigns Club (supports BoA and WiA) "... and keep moving on." -- General U.S. Grant American Civil War Game Club (supports AACW)

February 10th, 2009	#3
PhilThib Game Designer Philippe Thibaut Join Date: October 2005 Location: Meylan (France) Posts: 7,029	When and where ? A save would be interesting.. We have to see if the 'Minutemen' rule works efficiently or not, or if this is event-related maybe __________________

February 10th, 2009	#4
Heldenkaiser AGEod Grognard Join Date: March 2007 Posts: 943	February 1778, in Peekskill and in Providence. I will post a file (.trn?) when I get home. __________________ "These Savages may indeed be a formidable Enemy to your raw American Militia, but, upon the King's regular & disciplined Troops, Sir, it is impossible they should make any Impression." -- General Edward Braddock Colonial Campaigns Club (supports BoA and WiA) "... and keep moving on." -- General U.S. Grant American Civil War Game Club (supports AACW)

February 10th, 2009	#5
lodilefty WIA Coordinator RUS Dev Team Serial Modder RoP Beta Team WIA Beta Team Join Date: August 2007 Location: Finger Lakes, NY EDT: GMT-4 Posts: 4,244	We will need trn, hst and ord files for that turn, plus Backup1 and Backup2 sub folders... __________________ Never let the pursuit of perfection obstruct progress. WIA Manual ... Clarification of game concepts for WIA ... User contributed WIA FAQ Modding: AGE Wiki ... Modding Databases ... WIA 1.07b Database Latest Official WIA Patch 1.07b

February 10th, 2009	#6
Heldenkaiser AGEod Grognard Join Date: March 2007 Posts: 943	All right, I will post those, thx. __________________ "These Savages may indeed be a formidable Enemy to your raw American Militia, but, upon the King's regular & disciplined Troops, Sir, it is impossible they should make any Impression." -- General Edward Braddock Colonial Campaigns Club (supports BoA and WiA) "... and keep moving on." -- General U.S. Grant American Civil War Game Club (supports AACW)

February 11th, 2009	#9
Heldenkaiser AGEod Grognard Join Date: March 2007 Posts: 943	But then just what is the point of garrisoning a city, other than ensuring against revolt? __________________ "These Savages may indeed be a formidable Enemy to your raw American Militia, but, upon the King's regular & disciplined Troops, Sir, it is impossible they should make any Impression." -- General Edward Braddock Colonial Campaigns Club (supports BoA and WiA) "... and keep moving on." -- General U.S. Grant American Civil War Game Club (supports AACW)

February 11th, 2009	#10
lodilefty WIA Coordinator RUS Dev Team Serial Modder RoP Beta Team WIA Beta Team Join Date: August 2007 Location: Finger Lakes, NY EDT: GMT-4 Posts: 4,244	Good point. There is a request in for further information, but since BoA is 'legacy', it may be a while to get an answer..... __________________ Never let the pursuit of perfection obstruct progress. WIA Manual ... Clarification of game concepts for WIA ... User contributed WIA FAQ Modding: AGE Wiki ... Modding Databases ... WIA 1.07b Database Latest Official WIA Patch 1.07b

February 26th, 2009	#11
Heldenkaiser AGEod Grognard Join Date: March 2007 Posts: 943	Any idea how long a while might be? __________________ "These Savages may indeed be a formidable Enemy to your raw American Militia, but, upon the King's regular & disciplined Troops, Sir, it is impossible they should make any Impression." -- General Edward Braddock Colonial Campaigns Club (supports BoA and WiA) "... and keep moving on." -- General U.S. Grant American Civil War Game Club (supports AACW)

March 10th, 2009	#13
JackoWords Private Join Date: August 2007 Posts: 22	During the course of my games I have seen this as well, as one unit of American Militiamen sometimes toss over a thousand British regulars out on their rears. I noticed that it only occurs, however, when I set the British to 'Passive'.

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